New Hank Light

41 posts / 0 new
Last post

Pages

makapuu
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 4 days ago
Joined: 07/18/2011 - 00:08
Posts: 636
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
New Hank Light

Dunno if someone already posted something on this.

https://intl-outdoor.com/new-emisar-d1-mini-pocket-thrower.html

Firelight2
Firelight2's picture
Offline
Last seen: 41 min 29 sec ago
Joined: 04/08/2011 - 15:17
Posts: 5072
Location: California

Very nice.

Looks like it’s an updated version of the old Emisar D1. People have been asking for that for awhile.

TIFisher
Offline
Last seen: 2 days 18 hours ago
Joined: 11/26/2020 - 11:43
Posts: 504
Location: USA

Looks nice. The bare bones price isn’t bad either. The trouble with Emisar for me is resisting all the bling. It’s like buying an ice cream cone…do I want sprinkles, chocolate dipped waffle cone, nuts, dip, cherries…..???
It’s likely why I don’t already own one. The decision making is too stressful (LOL).

CRC2
Offline
Last seen: 3 weeks 1 day ago
Joined: 03/27/2022 - 17:32
Posts: 310
Location: Canada

SS bezel appears to be standard. Thats pretty nice.

Sirstinky
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 22 hours ago
Joined: 11/02/2018 - 17:07
Posts: 1687
Location: Vancouver, WA

It’s available with a bunch of FC-40 tints too! Probably a nice boost driver in there as well.

Gunga
Gunga's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 6 min ago
Joined: 11/28/2014 - 16:56
Posts: 2146
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Any recommendations on led? I’m not familiar with bam or fc-40. Tempted by 519 dedome but might not be most useful beam.

Sirstinky
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 22 hours ago
Joined: 11/02/2018 - 17:07
Posts: 1687
Location: Vancouver, WA

The FC40 is 12 volts and has a boost driver. It will have fully regulated output whereas the 3v leds will not somw they’re probably FET or FET+1. Combined the FC-40 with a high capacity 10A 18650 and you will have an excellent light. High cri and high output with a nicely thrown beam

defloyd77
Online
Last seen: 42 sec ago
Joined: 07/31/2018 - 22:42
Posts: 194
Location: Wisconsin

I recently ordered my first Hank light, a D4V2 mule with dedomed 5700K 519a. I made a mistake and didn’t check off to have a magnet in the tail and it would have been 7 for a cap plus 8 bucks shipping. No thanks.

So I did the logical thing and ordered a D1 for it’s magnetic tailcap.

Hank was so kind as to help me decide between the 519a, B35 and FC40 with a beamshot, but I have no idea how to post it here.

He also told me the B35 driver is more efficient than the FC40.

Haukkeli
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 28 min ago
Joined: 06/24/2021 - 05:27
Posts: 503
Location: Suomi

defloyd77 wrote:
I recently ordered my first Hank light, a D4V2 mule with dedomed 5700K 519a. I made a mistake and didn’t check off to have a magnet in the tail and it would have been 7 for a cap plus 8 bucks shipping. No thanks.

So I did the logical thing and ordered a D1 for it’s magnetic tailcap.

Hank was so kind as to help me decide between the 519a, B35 and FC40 with a beamshot, but I have no idea how to post it here.

He also told me the B35 driver is more efficient than the FC40.


B35 driver has only boost to 6V and has lower amperage output. Those are main reasons it’s more efficient.
Sirstinky
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 22 hours ago
Joined: 11/02/2018 - 17:07
Posts: 1687
Location: Vancouver, WA

B35AM is a 6v led. FC-40 is 12v. The 6v driver is going to be more efficient than the 12v driver, but it’s not a huge difference and is only really evident under high amp loads when the battery is close to the deregulation threshold (when the input voltage is getting too low to power the boost controller). Besides, you’ll get higher output and more throw out of the FC-40 with not much deficit in cri or beam quality.

defloyd77
Online
Last seen: 42 sec ago
Joined: 07/31/2018 - 22:42
Posts: 194
Location: Wisconsin

Hope I did that right.

Sirstinky
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 22 hours ago
Joined: 11/02/2018 - 17:07
Posts: 1687
Location: Vancouver, WA

defloyd77 wrote:

Hope I did that right.

Looks go9d

Gunga
Gunga's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 6 min ago
Joined: 11/28/2014 - 16:56
Posts: 2146
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Cool. Trying to decide between fc40 around 3000-3200K, 519 4500 dedome, and Bam35 3000 or 3500K

defloyd77
Online
Last seen: 42 sec ago
Joined: 07/31/2018 - 22:42
Posts: 194
Location: Wisconsin
Gunga wrote:
Cool. Trying to decide between fc40 around 3000-3200K, 519 4500 dedome, and Bam35 3000 or 3500K

That’s what I was deciding on too. I decided on the 519a 4500k dedomed, it’s looks to be pretty well tossed,could be wrong though

Gunga
Gunga's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 6 min ago
Joined: 11/28/2014 - 16:56
Posts: 2146
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Tossed? I just wonder what is a more useful beam. Perhaps fc-40? The nice thing about 519 is easy swaps to other 3v LED if needed.

id30209
id30209's picture
Offline
Last seen: 7 hours 14 min ago
Joined: 05/17/2018 - 12:20
Posts: 2283
Location: Croatia

Gunga wrote:
Tossed? I just wonder what is a more useful beam. Perhaps fc-40? The nice thing about 519 is easy swaps to other 3v LED if needed.
 

 

Hey Gunga. 

I have KR1 with 519 DD and KR1 with FC40 and i gotta tell you for close to mid range 519 has not much purpose where FC40 is a golden middle range between fat triple/quad hotspot and narrow 519.

Atm FC40 replaced all of my torches i have been usually using, just awesome.

WTB Titanium 4sevens 2xAA tube

Gunga
Gunga's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 6 min ago
Joined: 11/28/2014 - 16:56
Posts: 2146
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Thanks for the info!

alumenum
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 37 min ago
Joined: 08/15/2021 - 12:13
Posts: 53

I’m surprised the 519A dedomed candela is that poor. I had heard it was closer to SST-20 4000k, at around 35-39kcd. I suppose the 5700k dedomed is better, but I’m guessing it wouldn’t be more than maybe only 23kcd given the output difference from cooler tint alone wouldn’t be that big.

Still amazing tint, high CRI, and decent throw for what it is, but I might go FC-40 instead for the better regulation and bigger, brighter beam even though it’s not as throwy. I imagine it will throw more on a low battery since the CC driver on the 519A falls out of regulation much sooner.

I REALLY wish Hank would offer more 6v and 12v LED options for the D1/KR1 such as XHP50.3 HI, XHP70.3 HI, SST-70 and SFT-70. You’d get a lot more throw and output (though I’m not certain about how well 70.3 throws), and 50.3/70.3 HI come in high CRI and warmer tint options.

For the CC driver side, I’d love to see an SFN55.2/SFN55.3/SFP55 (whatever the most recent version is), or SFH55 (if it fits, which it probably doesn’t) in there for maximum lol factor.

defloyd77
Online
Last seen: 42 sec ago
Joined: 07/31/2018 - 22:42
Posts: 194
Location: Wisconsin
Gunga wrote:
Tossed? I just wonder what is a more useful beam. Perhaps fc-40? The nice thing about 519 is easy swaps to other 3v LED if needed.

Yep, it doesn’t really throw, it just tosses.

Ha,no, just a goof up. That’s why I rarely post on forums from my phone, I always make and miss mistakes like that. I don’t even remember what I intended to say haha.

I guess it depends on what you consider more useful. While I do appreciate Hank’s beamshot, I do wish they were done individually so we could get a better feel for the beam shapes.

blueb8llz
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 15 min ago
Joined: 06/02/2012 - 01:16
Posts: 3199
Location: California

Cool little light. Love all emitter choices. Thinking of either the sbt90 or the sft 40. Maybe I’ll wait for some reviews or some beam shots.

makapuu
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 4 days ago
Joined: 07/18/2011 - 00:08
Posts: 636
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
blueb8llz wrote:
Cool little light. Love all emitter choices. Thinking of either the sbt90 or the sft 40. Maybe I’ll wait for some reviews or some beam shots.

I was thinking of getting the SBT90.2 so I emailed Hank.
He said the throw on that is 650m on a freshly charged cell.

lazerEagle
lazerEagle's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 54 min ago
Joined: 05/20/2020 - 21:11
Posts: 257
Location: Australia

I went B35AM in 3000k. I know of won’t be a monster but it should be beautiful and the cct I like.

I dropped a DD 519a 4000k in a C8+ and the throw is respectable, great colour too. It honestly feels like an xpl-hi killer for me. Trading some power for CRI and CCT options. The hot spot is pretty intense though hence I’m trying B35AM in the D1.

I also have a GT-FC 3000K in an M21B. Impressive emitter. Prefer side switches so I don’t use it much. Once the D1 arrives I can compare the three 3000k options. So far 519 has best colour FC has most usable beam.

- the best way to predict the future is to create it -

blueb8llz
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 15 min ago
Joined: 06/02/2012 - 01:16
Posts: 3199
Location: California
makapuu wrote:
blueb8llz wrote:
Cool little light. Love all emitter choices. Thinking of either the sbt90 or the sft 40. Maybe I’ll wait for some reviews or some beam shots.

I was thinking of getting the SBT90.2 so I emailed Hank.
He said the throw on that is 650m on a freshly charged cell.

The description on their website shows the lumens and lux numbers for each emitter. The sbt90 throws exactly the same as the sft40 version, both hitting 100kcd.

Hikelite
Offline
Last seen: 6 days 20 hours ago
Joined: 07/13/2011 - 16:18
Posts: 3998
Location: Honeyland

alumenum wrote:

I REALLY wish Hank would offer more 6v and 12v LED options for the D1/KR1 such as XHP50.3 HI, XHP70.3 HI, SST-70 and SFT-70. You’d get a lot more throw and output (though I’m not certain about how well 70.3 throws), and 50.3/70.3 HI come in high CRI and warmer tint options.

He already said several times he won’t put those LEDs in flashlights ( XHP50.3 HI, XHP70.3 HI).
The SFT-70 is unrealistic entirely unless the LED is not driven to high output wattage (50W) from a single 18650 and 22mm driver Such tiny driver cannot sustain or realistically drive such LED to “get a lot more throw and output”. There are more factors than one to be realistic, just pop it in means only low candela.
So it’s not like he is completely unaware and needs to be told.
Hich CRI of XHP50.3 HI is high DUV and low R9, so not great at all, besides at those type of CRI and CCT the lumen output is not as as high the ubiquitous 70CRI 5000K lumen ratings that most companies use even for their low CCT and high CRI (although poor) ratings.

Sirstinky
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 22 hours ago
Joined: 11/02/2018 - 17:07
Posts: 1687
Location: Vancouver, WA

I happen to like the FC-40 for all-around use (like a EDC/pocket light). It will be interesting to see how it performs against a triple/quad light. The fact that it has a boost driver is icing on the cake. Hank makes pretty amazing lights for cheap.

thefreeman
thefreeman's picture
Offline
Last seen: 45 min 18 sec ago
Joined: 01/06/2020 - 09:56
Posts: 1582
Location: France
Sirstinky wrote:
B35AM is a 6v led. FC-40 is 12v. The 6v driver is going to be more efficient than the 12v driver, but it’s not a huge difference and is only really evident under high amp loads when the battery is close to the deregulation threshold (when the input voltage is getting too low to power the boost controller). Besides, you’ll get higher output and more throw out of the FC-40 with not much deficit in cri or beam quality.

High current efficiency between 6Vout and 12Vout is mostly the same at the same power, same Vin, it’s just the peak efficiency that is a bit higher at 6Vout, about 1~2 percent points higher, which isn’t a lot, that is if the same inductance is used (1.5uH in the case of the noctigon driver), normally you’d use a lower inductance for 6Vout, which would have lower DCR and a bit more efficiency at high current.

makapuu
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 4 days ago
Joined: 07/18/2011 - 00:08
Posts: 636
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
blueb8llz wrote:
makapuu wrote:
blueb8llz wrote:
Cool little light. Love all emitter choices. Thinking of either the sbt90 or the sft 40. Maybe I’ll wait for some reviews or some beam shots.

I was thinking of getting the SBT90.2 so I emailed Hank.
He said the throw on that is 650m on a freshly charged cell.

The description on their website shows the lumens and lux numbers for each emitter. The sbt90 throws exactly the same as the sft40 version, both hitting 100kcd.

Aahh, Hank musta updated his website. Those numbers weren’t there when I emailed him.
I am just a little disappointed in the lumen output of the SBT90.2. I’m used to expecting 4500 plus lumen as the norm.
But I fully understand it must be because of the lack of mass and perhaps a limitation of a 18650 battery feeding the hungry LED or other factors.
Still planning on getting the light though. Love carrying around all that power and throw in my pocket.

will34
will34's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 55 min ago
Joined: 12/18/2012 - 00:12
Posts: 4228

Can’t decide between the SFT40 and the FC-40.

SFT40 offer the optimal performance but I already have 3 lights with this emitter that can throw further. I have FC-40 in my convoy L6 and the beam is beautiful, but then again so is the D4S with 519A. Maybe I don’t need the D1 at all?

Haukkeli
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 28 min ago
Joined: 06/24/2021 - 05:27
Posts: 503
Location: Suomi

I planned to try the new XP-L Hi-version in this light. They probably allow more output, because of lower thermal resistance. So 4000K near 2000 lumen compact thrower could be possible.

blueb8llz
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 15 min ago
Joined: 06/02/2012 - 01:16
Posts: 3199
Location: California
makapuu wrote:
blueb8llz wrote:
makapuu wrote:
blueb8llz wrote:
Cool little light. Love all emitter choices. Thinking of either the sbt90 or the sft 40. Maybe I’ll wait for some reviews or some beam shots.

I was thinking of getting the SBT90.2 so I emailed Hank.
He said the throw on that is 650m on a freshly charged cell.

The description on their website shows the lumens and lux numbers for each emitter. The sbt90 throws exactly the same as the sft40 version, both hitting 100kcd.

Aahh, Hank musta updated his website. Those numbers weren’t there when I emailed him.
I am just a little disappointed in the lumen output of the SBT90.2. I’m used to expecting 4500 plus lumen as the norm.
But I fully understand it must be because of the lack of mass and perhaps a limitation of a 18650 battery feeding the hungry LED or other factors.
Still planning on getting the light though. Love carrying around all that power and throw in my pocket.

Hmm now that I think about it, I already have the noctigon kr1 with sbt90. They are almost identical in size. I was assuming that the d1 mini had a smaller head.

Gunga
Gunga's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 6 min ago
Joined: 11/28/2014 - 16:56
Posts: 2146
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Yeah. I think I changed my mind. Would prefer something that is D4v2 size with single emitter.

Pages