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Looking for charger recommendations

My Maha C9000 has died after about 10 years and I’m looking for something to replace it with that does lithium 18650s and AAA-D cell NiMH, 2 or 4 chanel

Thanks for any recommendations

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I plan to get several Nitecore UMS2 chargers the next time AE has a sale.

They accept protected 21700 cells, and they charge large cells (like 18650 or 21700 cells) pretty quickly.

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raccoon city wrote:

I plan to get several Nitecore UMS2 chargers the next time AE has a sale.

They accept protected 21700 cells, and they charge large cells (like 18650 or 21700 cells) pretty quickly.


I did see those, I’ll have to buy a Qualcomm QC 3 18w charger for it as well but it’s one I’m considering.

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Vapcell S4+. Best charger ever in the $40 price range.

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Sirstinky wrote:
Vapcell S4+. Best charger ever in the $40 price range.

1 for the Vapcell S4 being a solid choice. I got a Nitecore UMS2 to modify for 26800 cells and discovered it didn’t even come with a power adapter. The S4+ comes with a substantial power brick that lets it deliver a full 3 amps to each slot simultaneously. Maybe you won’t typically need that, but I appreciate the capability. My UMS2 can only hit max output on 1 slot at a time so two cells charge more slowly than one.

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Sirstinky wrote:
Vapcell S4+. Best charger ever in the $40 price range.

+1 for the Vapcell S4plus being a solid choice. I got a Nitecore UMS2 to modify for 26800 cells and discovered it didn’t even come with a power adapter. The S4plus comes with a substantial power brick that lets it deliver a full 3 amps to each slot simultaneously. Maybe you won’t typically need that, but I appreciate the capability. My UMS2 can only hit max output on 1 slot at a time so two cells charge more slowly than one.

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Some Nitecore UMS2 chargers come with a quick charge cable.

According to HKJ, the UMS2 will charge both channels simultaneously at 3A if you use a quick charge cable.

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Where's the best inexpensive place to get a Vapcell S4 Plus?

I can't find it on AE.

 

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Nevermind.

I did a Google Shopping search and found some sources.

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raccoon city wrote:

Some Nitecore UMS2 chargers come with a quick charge cable.

According to HKJ, the UMS2 will charge both channels simultaneously at 3A if you use a quick charge cable.


I bought it brand new from Nitecore’s 1st party website and I got a short micro-usb cable and no power adapter. And this is from the product page:
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Introducing the NITECORE UMS2 Intelligent USB dual-slot charger designed to recharge your batteries fast, safe and efficiently. The UMS2 will reach a maximum total output of 4000mA when using a 2A output USB power adapter. When the charger is powered or connected to quick charge (QC) power adapter, the screen will show “Quick Charge” and the single slot will achieve a max output of 3000mA.

You have to provide the USB wall adapter yourself.

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You have to provide the USB wall adapter yourself.

Oh, yeah?

Check this out:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804079046606.html

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Based on this thread and some more research I did, I've changed my mind and I think I will order a couple of Vapcell S4 Plus chargers from here:

https://www.sofirnlight.com/products/vapcell-s4-smart-chargers-with-4-slots-max-3a-per-slot-for-10440-14500-16340-18650-21700-and-26650-batteries

It'll come directly from China, but I'm not in a hurry.  :BEER:

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And I placed the order!

Each charger was less than $31 shipped.

(I hope that's a great deal.)  $)

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I’m using a Enova GYRFALCON ALL-88 and it’s awesome. It has all kinds of advanced settings but I’ve always just stuck the batteries in. 8 bays

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My old Nitecore i8 lost the 2nd channel, and I’m pretty sure whatever is on the direct opposite side from it as well.
Loving my MC3000 though.

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Thanks for the replies.

I recently bought a vapecell S4+ for a friend and it doesn’t do D cells despite it being written in some of the literature that it does, I’ll confirm today by taking one to my friends and checking though.

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That’s so weird. I literally just ordered that charger (Vapcell) from Neal with my new FF5-GT. I wanted a charger to bring with me on trips and I’m looking forward to charging cells at 3 Amps instead of 1

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raccoon city wrote:

CollectEverything wrote:

You have to provide the USB wall adapter yourself.

Oh, yeah?

Check this out:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804079046606.html


Check what out? I see no mention of an included power adapter although a third party seller might choose to bundle one in.

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CollectEverything wrote:
raccoon city wrote:

CollectEverything wrote:

You have to provide the USB wall adapter yourself.

Oh, yeah?

Check this out:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804079046606.html

Check what out? I see no mention of an included power adapter although a third party seller might choose to bundle one in.

Well, like I originally said, "Some Nitecore UMS2 chargers come with a quick charge cable."

That link is exactly what I'm talking about.

It's literally a Nitecore UMS2 charger with a quick charge cable.

If a third party seller chooses to bundle the USB wall adapter in, then that Nitecore UMS2 charger comes with a quick charge cable--just like I said.

That's what I meant when I said, "Check this out."

Neither of of said that the USB wall adapter has to be made by or provided by Nitecore, and I think that's where this confusion came from.

Apparently, you're talking about a USB wall adapter made and provided by Nitecore, and I'm not.  :BEER:

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1 for the vapecell S4

have had mine for around 2 ish+/- years now./ Liked it so well I bought a second.

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I’m a big fan of the SkyRC MC3000. It’s a very advanced charger that allows you to specifically set up every parameter of charging (if you choose to, there are “simple” modes as well).

Let’s say you want to storage charge your cells to 3.95v. Simple. 3.94v? A click away. Perhaps you want to charge something extremely slowly, you can set that up. Perhaps you want to see if the batteries are done charging from a few rooms away? There is a Bluetooth app for your phone to check in on it.

One of the best features is it ability to handle esoteric chemistries like Eneloop (not the same as NiMH) and LiFePo4.

The only caveat is that it won’t fit 26800 batteries. But I have a separate cheapie for those, and hardly have any of them to boot.

I made a video review of the charger, if you want to know more:
https://youtu.be/Ea7lWORLWJw

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raccoon city wrote:

CollectEverything wrote:
raccoon city wrote:

CollectEverything wrote:

You have to provide the USB wall adapter yourself.

Oh, yeah?

Check this out:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804079046606.html

Check what out? I see no mention of an included power adapter although a third party seller might choose to bundle one in.

Well, like I originally said, “Some Nitecore UMS2 chargers come with a quick charge cable.”

That link is exactly what I’m talking about.

It’s literally a Nitecore UMS2 charger with a quick charge cable.

If a third party seller chooses to bundle the USB wall adapter in, then that Nitecore UMS2 charger comes with a quick charge cable—just like I said.

That’s what I meant when I said, “Check this out.”

Neither of of said that the USB wall adapter has to be made by or provided by Nitecore, and I think that’s where this confusion came from.

Apparently, you’re talking about a USB wall adapter made and provided by Nitecore, and I’m not.  alt=:" />


I see no mention of an included power cable or power adapter anywhere on that listing.

The power adapter aka “wall wart” or wall adapter is what dictates charging speed, not the cable itself. So saying the cable is somehow a “quick charge” cable without a power adapter being included is nonsense. Doubly so when we’re talking about micro-usb cables!

It’s also misleading to tell people that some UMS2 chargers come with the power adapter when there isn’t even room in the product box for one. If I were to start selling TV sets bundled with a voucher for a case of beer and you made a generalized statement to someone that some models of that TV came with beer, they might get the wrong idea. You need to specify that specific sellers bundle these items so they don’t make a purchase with the wrong expectations.

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RE: SkyRC MC3000

Cheule wrote:
One of the best features is it ability to handle esoteric chemistries like Eneloop (not the same as NiMH)

I dug though the MC3000 manual to find what it does differently for Eneloops:

“The charging algorithm is the same as for NiMH but some options in SPV (slot programming view) have been adapted for more convenient presets.”

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Check out HKJ's page https://lygte-info.dk/info/roundCellChargerIndex%20UK.html

I bought this one LiitoKala Lii-PD4 very happy with it, although D cells wont fit.

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quahog wrote:
RE: SkyRC MC3000
Cheule wrote:
One of the best features is it ability to handle esoteric chemistries like Eneloop (not the same as NiMH)

I dug though the MC3000 manual to find what it does differently for Eneloops:

“The charging algorithm is the same as for NiMH but some options in SPV (slot programming view) have been adapted for more convenient presets.”

Oh wow! I fell for the marketing hype. Panasonic claims that eleloops are a proprietary chemistry, and the fact the MC3000 had a separate chemistry option for it fooled me big time

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804079046606.html

Well, it says, "Compatible USB Charger" so if I say this charger comes with a compatible USB charger, that is literally the truth.

I thought this meant a USB wall adapter, but now I don't know.

I do know that some AliExpress listings don't say anything like that, so this AE listing comes with "something" extra.

What that "something" is, I have no idea.

I already ordered some different chargers, so I guess we'll never know what the "something" is.  :THUMBS-UP:

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You need to specify that specific sellers bundle these items so they don't make a purchase with the wrong expectations.

I strongly disagree.

It's ridiculous to suggest that I have to specify that.

I try my best to post things that are literally the truth, so that's what you can expect from me.

If you misunderstand what I post when I am literally posting the truth and I'm being clear and concise (like in this very post), that's on you not me.  :BEER:

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The way I read it is “NITECORE UMS4 UMS2 Intelligent QC Fast Charging 4A Large Current Multi – Compatible USB Charger” means that it works with a charger that plugs into it with the right voltage, etc and not that it comes with a charger.

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I believe it comes with a Compatible USB Charger.

Do you see where you can choose AU, US, or UK plugs?

You wouldn't be able to choose those different plugs if it didn't come with a compatible USB charger.

Also, it would be very misleading to say "Compatible USB Charger" if it didn't come with a "Compatible USB Charger."

Some other AE sellers do not mention "Compatible USB Charger" because their battery chargers don't come with one, but the one I linked to does.  ;)

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raccoon city wrote:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804079046606.html(link is external)

Well, it says, “Compatible USB Charger” so if I say this charger comes with a compatible USB charger, that is literally the truth.

I thought this meant a USB wall adapter, but now I don’t know.

I do know that some AliExpress listings don’t say anything like that, so this AE listing comes with “something” extra.

What that “something” is, I have no idea.

I already ordered some different chargers, so I guess we’ll never know what the “something” is. Thumbs Up

It says, “NITECORE UMS4 UMS2 Intelligent QC Fast Charging 4A Large Current Multi-Compatible USB Charger.” The UMS2/4 are a USB powered units, they’re advertising that as a selling point because of the wide compatibility it has with various power sources. Of course compatibility is nice but an included wall adapter would have been nicer.

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I strongly disagree.

It’s ridiculous to suggest that I have to specify that.

I try my best to post things that are literally the truth, so that’s what you can expect from me.

If you misunderstand what I post when I am literally posting the truth and I’m being clear and concise (like in this very post), that’s on you not me. Beer

I posted the literal truth—I spoke of the limitations of the device which are easily verifiable on the product page. You came to “correct” this information with the misinformation that a different wall adapter/cable would overcome the limitations I spoke of. Further, you indicated that this magic cord comes with “some UMS2 chargers” which would imply to most people that there are multiple SKUs for the UMS2 unit which they can shop for. They wouldn’t assume that you were referring to some transitory third-party listing on a Chinese marketplace. Not to mention, we still haven’t actually seen such a listing.

The reason you can choose your country on the listing is almost definitely for shipping reasons. Nitecore killed two birds with one stone by omitting the wall adapter. They saved on manufacturing costs and logistics costs since they don’t need to package multiple versions of the device.

I don’t think it is a ridiculous expectation for you to actually verify your information before contradicting what other people say.

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I did not post any misinformation.

I did verify my information before contradicting what other people said.

The charger that I linked to comes with a compatible USB charger, and which one you get depends on if you choose the AU, US, UK, or EU electrical plug.

Choosing the choices above has nothing to do with what country you're in.

There are more than four areas in the world, and this seller ships to more than four areas in the world.

You are choosing the type of electrical plug that you want.

I have looked at many UMS2 and UMS4 chargers on AliExpress, and I happen to know what I'm talking about.

I only linked to the one AE listing with the lowest price.

Like I said quite a while ago, this is all a big misunderstanding.  :BEER:

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I can’t decide between the UMS2 or UMS4, might go with the 4 as it’s only $10 more

I’ve sent them a messaging to confirm asking if it comes with quick charge compatible charger but I haven’t had a reply yet.

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ezarc wrote:

I can't decide between the UMS2 or UMS4, might go with the 4 as it's only $10 more

I've sent them a messaging to confirm asking if it comes with quick charge compatible charger but I haven't had a reply yet.

The UMS4 doesn't charge as quickly as the UMS2, and I think the charger that I ordered (the Vapcell S4 Plus) is better than the UMS4 (and it's almost as cheap as the UMS4 if you order it from Sofirn directly from China.)  :THUMBS-UP:

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Also even though HKJ said that the UMS2 charges all cells at 3A, he also said that might change with UMS2 chargers in the future.

In other words, the current UMS2 may not charge all cells at 3A.

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I think they can both do 3A on 1 channel

It the UMS4 did something like:
1 channel – 3 amp
2 channel – 2 amp
3 channel – ?
4 channel – 1 amp

I bought a vapecell S4 plus for my friend a while ago but it doesn’t take D cells unfortunately, also the nitecore is half the price.

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