(Convoy) What's so great about an SS bezel, if it results in a bad beam?

I’m a Convoy dealer, so for obvious reasons I can’t start coloring in each bezel lol. I’m not a large enough store to request a custom version, so I’ve just had to avoid stocking every SS model.

It’s 100% the SS bezel causing it. I don’t get any artifacts with the Armytek Wizard C2 Pro Max, WR, and Nichia versions either

There are other means to this end. I use a black felt tip pen on my gaskets.
But it’s not a bad idea to blacken the interior part of SS (thrower) bezels.

Some guys using heat annodizing so steel reflections (artifacts) are reduced by a lot.

I’m simply use permanent marker and “draw” on inner side of the bezel where it’s in conntqct with lens.

a. subjective, i don;t think a ring is bad
b. aluminum would do the same thing
c. just get a magic marker and color it black [wasting lumens though]
d. i do need EDC ring to be strong, i drop them a lot, i have Al rings that have many dents

I did not remember the ring was there on the beam from my M21C-U. I notice it again now that you mention it. However, the ring goes outside of my field of view if the distance from the beam is more than 1 meter. Personally, I don’t mind it at all. Of course, added sturdiness is quite important especially the heavy ones. Heavy lights gets damaged way easily if dropped.

Just imagine the artifacts you must get from the Wurkkos T30S murder bezel :smiley:

Well, it sounds like I’m being a bit too picky. The reason I haven’t been stocking SS bezel models is because I thought my customers would start complaining about it.

If lets say you purchased them from a store for 3x the price, would you then have an issue with the beam?

Haha, yes, that one would be quite something. Glad it was optional

Apparently the bezel is discontinued now. I’m not sure if it was because of all the jokes or if it was for liability reasons. I am no lawyer, but I think even self defense would look like premeditated violence if you carried this monstrosity around.

It’s meant to protect the light. Just take a torch to it and problem solved and if you do it right it can look nice.

Elzetta is regarded as one of the most bombproof tactical lights. Their solution: just a whole lot of aluminium at the bezel.

In outdoor use I barely notice the reflections from my convoy s12, though.

Huh, never heard of them before today.

@Funtastic : With your being a store owner I can believe that's annoying.

As an individual it's also annoying, but a bit of time, etching solution, and permanent black marker solves the problem.

Popular in the same circles as surefire. Probably mostly purchased with taxpayer money.

Surefire I’ve heard of though. Weird that I am jjust now hearing about Elzetta. Maybe it’s because they don’t look as tacticool

So many Convoy lights have stainless bezels? I’d not really noticed. I think I only have one an M2. But I don’t recall a ringy beam. Will have to check.

Although I run a Nichols 219B in mine. Bought as a host.

M2 is fine for me with an SST40, but everything else I’ve tried is ringy. H1, H2, H3, M21C, M21G, M21D.

I see little point of the strengthening benefits on the headlamps since the bezel is flush with the head. The H2 & H3 beam profile is the worst of the headlamps.

Sofirn’s SP40 has no such ring, as far as I recall

The geometry of an SS bezel matters. Artifacts can be completely avoided with the right geometry.

I don’t consider regular unhardened stainless to be the ideal bezel material. Hardened stainless (which is inexpensive) or grade 5 titanium would be better. I would guess that hard anodized 7075 alloy aluminum is comparable to an unhardened SS bezel in terms of how it handles drops. Eventually I’ll get around to testing this theory.

The SS bezels in my S3 and M2 (and JAXMAN E2L) flashlights do not create an issue with a ringy beam. That’s probably due to the small size of the bezels compared to others.

It seems a SS bezel is more for aesthetics than actual protection of a flashlight. Most of my flashlights are shelf queens, so perhaps in the real world a SS bezel can protect the head and lens better than aluminum. But I think the size of the bezel will be a more of a determinant in preventing damage than the material itself.

Funtastic, just saw this thread after commenting earlier in the main Convoy one. Looked at L.R.O.’s video footage, too…in outdoor use that ring doesn’t seem terribly noticeable but in-hand is surely different than in-frame. Just found a third reflector/stainless in my collection, which is the Rofis R2 14500 with an XPL…no rings on it either.

As a Convoy data point, my M3C with the stainless bezel does not have much of a ring, but a faint purple one on the flood periphery where it meets the primary yellow-green tint of the spill (XHP70.2). The beam looks exactly the same with the stock black aluminum bezel. I played around with black sharpie and a black paint pen this afternoon and nothing I did the the sloped or vertical step of the stainless bezel changed anything in that beam. Wish I had some more to play with or something with a good offensive ring. lol.

I see Hoop mentioned geometry before I did…kinda thinking that’s where it’s at if it’s not just something with the reflector pairing or focus. Did you already try blacking out your bezel, and if so did it have noticeable effect?