Again, guys, these batteries are normal (crappy) chinese Ni-Mh cells with NO low self discharge technology, with a capacity around 2200mAh and they are not good under high loads (more than 1 Amp)
These are actually pretty good by cheapies standard. The crappy NiMH around were ~500-600mAh and discharge ~1C only. Of course LSD not included. By comparison, this fake is improved by leaps and bounds.
If they're priced at $5-$6 as they should be, and carry own brand, I don't think they'd have problem selling it. Hot cakes. Even I would jump on some for my kids battery packs and such.
The problem is they ride on Eneloops name and ruin it all.
How many people are being scammed by these fakes. DD should change the description immediately to FAKE-nloops to restore some credibility. A very low act imo. Bring back the Avoid label.
I have received "Eneloops" from Manafont,they are sightly different than Dinodirect's, they weight 27 grams each (heavier than DD's), they don't have the words WAHS and WATHER, but they are not genuine.
They don't have the Date Code on the side, and capacity isn't like an original one.
My Results:
Discharge to 0.8V @ 2Amps: 177mAh
Discharge to 0.8V @ 1Amp: 1703mAh
So… FAKE cells, but could be worse. MF Manafont doesn’t sell genuine Sanyo Eneloops!!!!
FX-32, mind doing one more test - discharging at 2A down to 0.1V? I’m wondering if this low capacity result is caused by their internal resistance or just crappy chemistry…
I for one took the risk because there was very little money involved, I paid mostly in gift cards and out of 45$ spent only 11$ came immediatelly from my PayPal account, the rest were coupons and gift cards+I specifically asked their customer service whether these are UTG or UTGA generation batteries, to which they gave convincing answer that these are 2nd generation UTGA Eneloops.
I knew before even ordering my first item from them, by reading reviews here, that its going to be gambling with DinoDirect and if something is not top quality or as advertised, then there is possibility to deal with DinoDirect, albeit not without hassle, to fix it.
So yeah, you just have to play their game, buy something, always remember, that what you paid for is not always what you will receive, have patience and again play by their rules - they are trying to fool you, you should be trying to get all your money back in either PayPal refund or giftcards if there is something not satisfactory with your order.
Thats how you deal seller with dodgy sales practices and poor customer service.
Ill admit that when I ordered from them previous times, I really wanted to have a chance to deal with their customer service and play their item-not-as-described game, its fun lol
BTW, I upated thread title and added Manafont there as well as link to FX-32’s post to let others know about Manafont fakes.
No DD for me. I’ve heard way to much negative stuff about them. Outfits like that are the ones that make me glad that the main focus of my light addiction is NOT on budget lights but on the most reputable manufacturers (custom included) and vendors out there. DD is NOT one of those reputable vendors. I get just as mad being ripped off for $.10 as I do $1000. I place a value on my time and refuse to do hours of research to try to save a buck on a $10 set of batteries only to find out that I should have paid attention to the warnings I read from others that have already been screwed. Ignore warnings at your own risk.
Hmm, have you tried measuring voltage with DMM, across the cell’s terminal, during 2A discharge? you might have some parasite resistance somewhere in discharging circuit.
I haven’t measure it… but parasite resistance will be always there maybe higher or lower but it can’t be eliminated; I used the thicker wires I could directly to the charger to discharge the cell.