I am thrilled by this flashlight: Jacob A60 15usd light. Thank you inside!

STL-V6= 1.4A
HD2010= 3.4A

Both with 4.20v Trustfire 3000s. So they are both performing optimally, I think.

I know for a fact that your Jacod A60 WILL NOT throw well enough to identify something like a deer, dog, or person at 400 yds. Sure it might light up a white barn or shed but probably only enough to tell that it is a building.

For instance, last night I went out just to confirm (to myself) that my STL-V6 and HD2010 didn’t have usable throw at 400yds. There is a creek 408yds away (measured with Nikon Rangefinder) with a mix of oak and maple trees. The trees on average stand 50ft tall. I was barely able to see that they were there. When I say barely I mean I had to really try and let my eyes distinguish whether or not I was actually seeing them. From memory during the day I could remember about how high they should stand and only then could I faintly see them. There could have been a blaze orange elephant by one of the trees and I never would have been able to see it, it was that dim.

I’m not sure why a lot of people seem to exaggerate things (gas mileage in their vehicles especially) but it’s not right IMO. Maybe some don’t see it as exaggerating but merely as just meeting a different level of standards? :~ I feel that it is only right to help others who are looking at these threads, some posting but most just observing, looking for a great thrower. I have no doubt that the A60 is a great light. It is on my “To Buy” list when I have some funds. I just don’t think it is a light that I would grab for if I am wanting to see if there are deer in the pasture 300+yds away.

I’ll put this one on here to show pretty much what this light will do at 350yds on manual exposure of 1 sec shutter.

Are you 100% sure that is 350yds? Judgign by the shrubs and windows that looks more like 350feet.

If its 350yds than that building is massive because at that distance even a 100ft building would appear smaller. But it’s so hard to gauge in photos.

Always a doubting Thomas.

I’m zoomed in on that picture some.

Try this one with no zoom. Count the poles and do the math.

Zoomed in some? Like 10x?

And here’s the Olight M3X at same distance and settings as above to compare to one of the best XM-L throwers. And no the Jacob doesn’t beat it, but for its size and cost it’s one bad momma.

You do the math. My camera will go to 18x optical zoom. I don’t know how much I zoomed in. It’s irrelevant to me.

Here’s another with the Jacob at 60yds.

The ANSI/NEMA FL1 standard for flashlight performance specification sets the target illuminance for throw calculation at 0.25 lux, which is about full moonlight.

Of course that’s not enough for targets like deer against bushy background, but uses/environments differ and a common standard was needed as a means of comparison. We must take it for what it is.

I said that because I assumed your first picture was with no zoom because you didn’t specify. That’s why I doubted the distance. That’s the only reason I replied “10x?” because it was zoomed in immensely.

All kidding beside you have confirmed by point that I expressed earlier. Even at 350yds (I trust your numbers) you can only see the white building and the tree silhouettes. I think you would agree that 400yds is to much to claim for this light? Do you have any pictures of the beam against natural environments? Not something white?

Same shot with the FandyFire STL-V6 to put that in perspective.

I completely agree. I just know from experience when I first entered the hobby. That people throw out some pretty crazy numbers like 600yds, etc. It just sets up people to be disappointed unless searching for white buildings is what they are looking for.

I agree for someone that doesn’t “need” a throw light but merely wants to see how far they can squeeze each lumen. Even if it seems non-existent at that distance is a concept that I simply can comprehend.

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Well the Jacob will light up objects at 300yds regardless. And for about $15 shipped I know of no other light for the money that will touch it.

Small Sun ZY-C10-S probably will

And you have to remember those far shots are 1 sec manual shutter speed and not the longer exposure speeds that some may post. Those pictures at 350yds may even underscore the actual beam. But one thing I do know is that I’m not over exagerrating them either.

The Small Sun C10 will not out throw the Jacob A60 for distance. I have it as well and have compared them. Jacob easily wins.

Wow that’s impressive! Does it throw further and have a wider/ more usable spot?

@ agedbriar: Ooops sorry. I blew right past that one! Thank you for double checking me :slight_smile:

It is good that you know that. But how does it relate to what I wrote earlier?
If I may quote myself:

I hear you about the exaggeration but this is not it. I have a native danish dog which is 10 kg. I can spot it when it runs in a grass pasture 200 meters away. My golden retriever I can spot and follow at 300 meters. But then she is blonde. In more ways than color btw :wink: But that doesnt mean i can tell you if it is my golden retriever. I couldnt do that in daylight. But it is most likely mine and I assume that it is her.
The 400 meters is not seeing fine details at all. It is seeing a tree/rock/house and being able to identify that well enough to know where I am and what direction I have. So it is the outline/shape of object at that distance.

Can you perhaps emphasize what the problem with these statements are. I am feeling like I should defend myself here but don’t really know against what? Your opinion about a light you don’t own? That does not make sense to me. Your ability to see or not see a tree at 400 meters at night when you have a 55 kCd light source? Makes no more sense to me.
If this is totally out out of sync with your thoughts and ideas about flashlights then perhaps we should agree that we disagree over these matters?

I just have differing results. I might have to try a different area that is even more open. I like your post about seeing your dogs at different distance because for me that is something can relate too. When I get home I will try and find some similar distances to see if I get similar results.