Match's Mods: Homemade Integrating Sphere

I think you may be a bit confused. What I intend on doing is piecing together a drop-in (spec's aren't that important), and then testing it in my I.S. and obtaining the numbers for it that way, then passing it along. It's a rather crude way to calibrate I.S.'s, but really the only practical way... It will also ensure that my future lumen numbers match ChicagoX's and anyone else who would like to use the calibration drop-in.

i understand

I used a light with known consistent output, my sc60, to calibrate mine. After that I tested against others like my Ti to confirm it is consistent and accurate. I don’t know about a home made drop in with so many variables. Sounds sketchy to me. I know mine is accurate. If you don’t already have an ANSI rated light, borrow one from someone nearby or buy one.

I have several ANSI-rated lights, but I like the idea of having more comparative samples.

It’s also a great excuse to buy a Zebralight…

I think the drop-in is a good idea. I think I am pretty accurate with the lights i have to test but it would be a good comparison. Another reference point. Sphere is looking good X.

JohnnyMac, Langcjl hopefully makes my point a little more clearer. If there's a bunch of us with I.S.'s, it would be nice to have one light or drop-in to use as a reference that we can pass around. As far as a homemade drop-in with so many variables, as long as it's current regulated it won't matter in the slightest. The drop-in lumen rating won't be calculated off of any data sheet, but rather in my I.S. then passed on.

I thought my explanation to Bort was clear on this intent...but hopefully this helped a little more.

Meh... NURSE! WHERE ARE MY PILLS?!?!

Would you have to qualify which light the drop in was used in, such as a single 18650 light, versus a 3AA light, or a 26650 light? Or which exact batteries were used? I hear “regulated”, but I’m still wondering what would happen if a battery that was marginal in amperage or voltage wouldn’t mess up the test?

I’d love to make one of these spheres, but I just can’t justify the money for lights I’m going to get rid of anyhow. :frowning:

From a pure marketing standpoint, I don’t see how you can’t justify making one.

Nudge, nudge.

For all you intelligent guys out there, this might help with using Barium sulphate or Potassium sulphate coatings in a sphere.

It's all way beyond me, but it looked good, LOL.

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Also, here's a recipe for making a stronger paste, for paper mache'

and here's where to get the "resin glue".

You know, if I've gone this far.......

Imused white glue and water with newspaper on mine. Took forever to get enough layers on it to be stiff enough on its own.

Ya, but you know me... Have to do it differently. Like making the first layer of newspaper out of "gores", so the inside has very neat seams. Using the weldwood for stiffness and longevity. Using some type of fabric like denim or strong cotton, for more stiffness, etc, etc, etc. LOL, it's got to be a challenge and it's got to be a one of a kind. I just don't know any different.

What it the wavelength range of “white” leds. From 3000k to 7000k.

500nm to 700nm?

I’m looking at all possible coatings and just want to know the range. I don’t expect I would do any testing on RGB leds.

Almost all the light for white LEDs of any color temp is between 425 and 750 nm. There is a pretty significant peak at 450 nm and virtually nothing below 425 nm.

So when you shine the light inside the sphere, do you shine it straight at the baffle? I'm assuming so given the point of it is to stop light going stright from the torch to the sensor.

Defintely building one of these :)

- Matt

No, you shine at the opposite wall. The baffle actually means an imperfection in the sphere geometry and thus is something bad, but direct light from source to detector is much worse.

What about making the first layers out of white paper?
I want such a sphere too and I thought that if we all get our olight i6s(I guess a lot of us have ordered this light) we can calibrate our spheres to each other…

I just found and read through this entire thread. And dangit! Now I’ve got to build one too! Wouldn’t ya know my son just burst a 20” rubber ball and we threw it away?

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Figured I’d give this thread a good ol’ necro bump.

Going to try my hand at making one of these spherical beauties in the coming weeks. No idea what I’ll use for the calibration… And I’ll need a light meter!

Funny, I just started at one just yesterday, before you dug this thread out :-) , only 25 cm (10ish inch) diameter because I do not have space for a bigger one, but using the 'match' method. No idea when it is ready, or if it is any good at all, but it has been a loooooong time since I last did paper mache :-)