Buying the real thing

Thanks for the heads-up Suncoaster. I’m in need of batts and this seems a good bet, as I’m in Brisbane.

Fields, I’m about to get a couple of UF2100’s to try on the bike. Have been using 2 Ultrafire C3’s with 14500 batts on the road bike for a couple of years. Bit of foam and an o-ring to clamp on bars.
Now I want something brighter for the cagers of Brisbane and the 2100’s aren’t much bigger than the C3’s

UF2100 is a well made light ! I would have Erik also known as E1320 put 2 new pills E-Tomic 7135 3.5 amp and you will have around 1800 lumens in front of your bike !

If you are after a cheap P60 drop in try ali express. You can get xml U2 1a 3 mode drop ins for $10- $11. H M Slow strobe. They draw over 3A on high.

Wow,

You go away for a few hours and there is a lot to read,

I’m in Brisbane everyone too, nice to know there are BLFers everywhere,

I ride a roadie, mostly on a trainer but are getting out more and more and for longer and longer and don’t like some roads with no light and also being less than visible to motorists

OK so the gist is that if it looks ok then go for it in terms of torches and then make sure I get what I paid for

I like the look of the international outdoors c8, that site previously would not open for me

Would you guys recommend buying as much from one store or from multiple?

What’s the best place to buy solar force from?

I did not know that E120 sent overseas, I guess I’ll have to PM Him

Does anyone have a link to the aliexpress drop in?

Batteries and chargers will be my next challenge, balancing budgets vs quality vs safety

Thanks for the advice everyone

3 mode drop in

Cheers

Suncoaster, Do you mean you like the T6 emitter tint more-so than the U2? These are the 2 options they give.

Has anyone else ordered from this seller?

Yes
The Neutral White 3C T6 gives a warmer tint, and gives a daylight or natural look to outdoors at night.
It’s very different from Cool White.

I’m not sure if it’s available in the U2 yet.
You apparently sacrifice a bit of output for the nicer tint though.

There are plenty of previous threads about the torch vendor and the tint, which are what persuaded me to buy one.
Torch:

Tints:

Vendor:

Do yourself a favor and buy the Jacob A60 from Deal Xtreme. The Small Sun C10 is another winner for the price. $15 for either of these lights shipped is hard to beat for the money for what you get.

And welcome.

What would you get these in place of?

Concerning the TwoFish (TwoFake) knockoffs: I bought some from DX (one and only order) and CN Quality Goods this Spring. Both work about as well as the original. DX took exactly 31 days. CNQG usually take about 3 weeks for regular mail. If you go for air/tracking and include some of these in a larger order, 10-12 days, but I'm in U.S.

DX - $2.39

CNQG - $1.50

CNQG has a sister site called fancyflashlights.com Mostly the same look and selection, prices are different with shipping included. Sometimes you can find a mis-match and get a great deal. FF seems to be better for single item purchases, CNQG better for multiple item purchases with the shipping spread around. Run by Ric-CN, a member here on BLF.

Welcome Feilds,

I have a few Solarforce lights, the L2, L2m, L2i and L2p are all good, I really like the l2p for look and feel (quality) and wish I had bought that first and may not have bought the others and some other cheapies if spent the dollars in the first place.
http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=7&id=432

For dropins, I make my own but I also have the manafont 3 mode XML which drives hard.
http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/ultrafire-cree-t6-3mode-memory-led-dropin-module-42v-max-p-5178

I have a number of zoomies, the sipik 68 (get the grey from manafont it does not scratch like the black) is a classic and should not be over looked and still impresses those at the pub after a few beavies
http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/sipik-sk68-floodtothrow-zooming-cree-q4-convex-lens-led-flashlight-grey-1aa-p-5822

I have the C8 from KD which you cannot go wrong with. This is also a great/easy light to mod with new drivers and emitters.
http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S020144

For chargers, again I have a few. I am really impressed with the ML-102 charger as it uses USB and can charge from car/computer or walwort but only does lion. (I have another $2 cheapy usb for nimh)
http://www.intl-outdoor.com/ml102-usb-charger-for-18650-26650-battery-p-243.html

Batteries - The Sanyo Xtar 2600 are good and protected and I normally set my friends and family up with those, Most of my gear now has drivers that alert on low voltage so I am using unprotected Panasonics, there is not too much in it as far as performance goes but I want to know I am getting the most out of my setup.

edit : added links to products, no referrals.

Thanks all for more links and places to research

My Head’s spinning more than ever, I think i’ll put up my revised shopping list tomorrow and see what everyone thinks

Just a caveat on the batteries that I mentioned earlier in this thread ,
at 69mm, they’re longer than most other 18650s:

Compare:
65mm Ultrafire Blue “2400 mAh” claimed on wrapper. cough
64mm Ultrafire Red “3000 mAh” claimed on wrapper. LOL
68mm Ultrafire Black “4000 mAh” claimed on wrapper. ROTFL

Some say the extra length may cause problems with some lights,
but they work in all my C8 sized torches, my E1320 modded Ultrafire UF2100, an Ultrafire C303, and my Sipik SK73 lights.

Welcome to BLF fields

I hope you get what you want and have some fun in the proces. I know I do ;-) (Most of the time anyways he he)

Here’s the Solarforce L2m straight from solarforce, it’s on sale for only $10.99! http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=2&id=485

Hi All,

Thanks for your contributions yesterday,

I think I’ve decided on what I’m going to get and where in terms of flashlights, am not sure where to go with batteries and chargers though,

I’m looking at getting

$13.80 - Tank 007 E09 http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/tank007-e09-cree-r2-3mode-led-flashlight-complete-box-set-aaa-p-8040

$8.97 - Sipik http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/sipik-sk68-floodtothrow-zooming…

$10.88 Ali Express Drop In OP Page Not Found - Aliexpress.com

$18.99 + $2 Post - Solarforce L2P Reverse Clicky http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=7&id=417&sname=l2p&xpage=1&sh=1

$3 - SMO P60 Reflector http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/265mm-aluminum-smooth-reflector-for-r5q5t6-flashlight-led-emitters-p-5505

$19.86 - KD C8 SMO http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S020144

Since most of these were mentioned above i’m hoping that everyone thinks that they are an ok purchase

Does anyone know if its worthwhile getting a SMO reflector in case I don’t like the OP one for the P60?

Also will the ultrafire remote switch fit the kd c8? http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/pressure-switch-for-ultrafire-c2c8-flashlight-55cm-p-5895

Assuming that all above is OK, i’m now looking at batteries,

I’m getting confused what will fit and not fit, I’ll need at least 1x10440 1x14500 2x18650

Now I’m not sure what batteries will fit and what won’t fit

I’m sure there are great but expensive batteries and i’m sure there are gambles the cheaper you go,

What I can’t work out is that if you go cheap and you don’t get the MAh that’s advertised will they still pull the appropriate current - but require replacing more frequently?

If I were to get this charger and batteries for example this is worth 1 panasonic cell, now I know it may not be as good but will it work as an introduction that I can upgrade from? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Trustfire-TR-001-Charger-2x-UltraFire-3000-mAh-18650-Protected-batt-Battery-/320935112305?pt=AU_Electronics_Batteries_Chargers&hash=item4ab9392e71

If I want at least the batteries above and charger what would you buy and what would you consider a reasonable price?

Thanks again everyone

fields:

I think your list looks pretty good. Suggestions on batteries, but I think you'll get some good Aussie suggestions that would trump mine, as I'm in the States:

Solarforce has a new 2600mAh 18650. I would recommend you get 4 so you have 1+ spare for each torch. You can combine this with your order and save on shipping. Alternatively, they offer a 2400mAh that will save a few $$$. These are both good quality cells, not fakes.

I do not agree with your selection of charger + cells off ebay. The cells are complete crap and no telling what's under the wrapper. I don't have that charger, so I can't comment on it, but while you're at the Solarforce site, check out their charger/battery combos. This is probably the best deal - Looks like the same charger from ebay rebadged to Solarforce + 4 2600mAh cells referenced above. Combining the SF charger with cells will be like getting the charger for an additional $7.50 (US).

This will get you started. I usually use eneloops for my AA and AAA needs. I do have a few 14500s, but those were bought domestically and I only use them in a couple of lights, so hopefully someone else can reco a good source for 10440/14500. Just be careful of buying batteries off ebay - too many fakes unless you get a vendor recommended by someone. If someone recommends based on the best price, it's usually too good to be true in my experience.

I would go ahead and get an extra SMO reflector. I did that when I bought my KD C8 (my first high-powered LED light). Note you can always spray a clear coat spray paint to turn an SMO into an OP (not sure that you can go back though).

Batteries and charger - you've got a lot of options and a lot of people will recommend different ones. That charger you linked seems pretty well regarded, but it charges at 500mA which I believe is too high to safely charge a 10440 or 14500 but fine for 18650's. I was going to recommend an Xtar charger, but I see the WP2 II still charges at 500mA. I'll let others chime in on chargers, but you definitely don't want to skimp on a cheap charger (although there are probably some "cheap" ones that are fine). You may have a hard time getting a universal charger that works with tiny 10440's and larger 18650's well. You may end up with a charger that takes a very long time to charge 18650's. The batteries with that charger are junk - stay away from ALL Ultrafire cells!

For batteries - what do you want, the best? Able to kick out the most amps? Or do you want cheapest that are "good"? The quality of a cell will affect how much current it will allow put out. Cheap cells will not put out high currents (like Ultrafires). The Trustfire Flames protected 2400mAh have always been one of the best "budget" buys (my first cells and mine do well). The 3000mAh version (not actual capacity, tested around 2400mAh) are about the same quality or a little bit better. I also have the Trustfire protected 14500's. Solarforce cells are quite good too. The best cells will be based on Panasonic or Sanyo cells. Be aware that the higher end Panasonic cells have their capacity rated down to a lower voltage which you'll never operate a single cell flashlight on and therefore you're paying for capacity you won't likely get. I think the Panasonic 3100mAh cell will give you right around 2600mAh to 3.0v. For this reason a 2600mAh Sanyo cell might be a better buy. Both Sanyo and Panasonic will give you the highest amps. Hi-max cells from Ebay are a good budget buy too (this seller highly recommended). Buy protected cells especially since you're just starting out and learning. Oh, and get a decent multimeter to monitor them with. Always buy from a reputable seller.

Hope these ramblings help! I have the Tank 007 E09 and love it as my EDC (AAA alkaline or NiMh only). I also have a KD C8, a fake Solarforce L2 with the famous Manafont Ultrafire 3 mode XM-L (one of my favorite lights), and Manafont's Ultrafire SK68 clone.

-Garry

Xtar WP2 II is fine for charging 14500 at .5 amp setting. Not good for 10440 as Garry mentioned, but I'm not sure if there are any good inexpensive chargers out there that handle that range.

EDIT: The Sysmax Intellicharge i4 v2 will handle all sizes of batteries you are looking to buy.

Garry's suggestions on TF Flames are good for budget batteries, as long as you buy from Manafont. Those have been tested. Buying from other sources is hit or miss - major sellers as well as many ebay sellers have been busted for selling fakes, including DinoDirect and DealExtreme. I have the Trustfire 3000mAh (Actual capacity ~ 2400), they are good cells, but at $11.70 a pair, virtually the same cost as the accurately claimed 2400mAh cells from Solarforce for $6 apiece. I believe in rewarding honesty. SF 2600mAh will cost you $7.38 apiece if you buy 4 at a time.

Hi-Max Garry recommended are another great cell. Garry, correct me if I'm wrong but I think the ebay vendor you linked to is U.S. based and won't ship Li-Ion to Australia with the new USPS restrictions. Seems like there is another HK based seller of Hi-Max cells BLFers have had good luck with.

Whatever you do, get quality cells, don't skimp on batteries to save few bucks.