mmmm they winā¦ we got nothingā¦
If you are stupid enough you can be happy because they won for more than half an hour 
We will wait for 9 years to see weather his medals are real
Its totally suspicious.
Meaning? Please do explain. This ought to be good.
What irritates me heavily around sports that it is given much more attention (media, financial etc) than it objectively deserves. In some countries more so than others. Also, what irritates me next about it, are totally stupid statements of people around sports (journalists, players themselves, coaches, audience). Sometime they talk about so simple things like they are, I dont know, important philosophical questions or something of outmost importance in our lives.
I mean, retirement system shattered, healthcare on low levels, education not good, children go to poor schools, older folk die in bad retirement homes without enough care, and there is more talk about sport than all of these areas together.
For me thats more than stupid.
You know what Im talking about. When technology in some laboratories becomes more advanced, we will be 100% percent sure
So your saying Phelps is a roid user.
That I highly doubt. And he has passed all test. Just like all the other folks from your country has done that didnāt win. LOL!
I hate a sore loser.
No, totally not, Im just saying that it can be suspicios to someone
I donāt see evidences that Phelps is taking any advantage, in fact I find sad he was punished for smoking like a monkey, as it does not improve at all how good he swims etc, only a bad example for kids, and it is up to him to smoke whatever he wants if it makes him happy :bigsmile:
As someone said at work the other day, Phelps is so dang good that he can smoke dope and still win. Sad but true.
+1
Says the guy who was whining about an American suspecting a Chinese athlete was doping?
Now Iām starting to think youāre just trying to stir the pot here 
Iām not a big Phelps fan, but look at the guy. Heās biologically designed for swimming. He has nearly the perfect attributes, which certainly gives him an advantage over most.
Not that I dislike Olympoics. I like to watch it, especially because there are sports on it which are usually not on TV.
Here in Europe usually everything is about football (soccer), in newspapers TV etc, and Im, personally, full of it.
I enjoy watching gymnastics for example, it can be really exciting. But as a person who often thinks, when watching a movie for example, hot it was made, and how ārealā is it, during gymnastics program I also sometimes think about how these people came to that level of skill and was that process positive for them, in total, as human beings.
I wasnt too serious about Phelps (although someone can indeed be suspicious about his accomplishment 
), but also, on the other hand, ti should be noted that our oppinions are in some part or the other formed by how media are reporting about something.
And of course we in most of Europe (not to mention USA media) are totally under influence of anglosaxon media. Wich report of Phelpsā āunhumanā accomplishments and fast advancing as a product of his body characteristics etc, and when talking about Ye from some different angle.
In almost all other parts of the world (around 3 quarters of the world) they tend to report about same events, very often I think, from different angle etc, weather these parts of the world are ādemocraticā or ānot democraticā. Democracy is also very relative thing, and also thing of perception as everything, and this perception is again under heavy influence of mediaā¦
Nevertheless I think China is indeed a winner And I hope that theyll have twice as much medals than any next nation on next Olympics
They are all doped, no need to single individual athletes out. (at least after my definition) I only feel sorry for the ones that get caught .... and the other dopers are pointing fingers. But all that discussion will end, when genetic doping is mandatory to reach qualification requirements. Should be in the near future... or is it already here? Interdigital webbing on swimmers and high jumpers with wings... should be fun to watch. I'm pretty sure the next step in human evolution will be man-made in laboratories.
USA is on a roll and they will likely be the overall winners in gold, silver, and bronze, but personally Iām enjoying watching all of the winners. Talent is talent no matter which way you put it. Go USA, go Olympians!
Except when athletes diss their own country and represent another. That kind of taints the whole ānational prideā aspect of cheering in the Olympics. Itās funny how many medals Iām watching being won by USA residents (some born here even) while competing for other countries.
So the winners, in my eyes, are the ones who are proud to represent the people they live and work with. The ones who appreciate and respect the spirit of these games. Of course, thatās secondary to their primary goal, which is to win a medal and glory for themselves
Thanks for all your replies,everyone has his answers,I agree one opinion that the one who attend the meeting is the winnerļ¼they are heros in my eye
I donāt find it that easy to determine what is each one representing, and why.
There are USA athletes that were born somewhere else, that might have been living in USA most of their lifes, and they might feel they belong to USA, or maybe where they were bornt, why not?
Others might not be proud of their country, it is not a must being proud of a country you might or might not like what is doing, Imagine any of them is being forced to do it, when he/she doesnāt want to.
First of all, they are persons, and then they represent themselves in the first place, and whatever they want in the second place I believe.
I am not a fun of having big convictions they only help to wars between countries and regions, cultures, religionsā¦
Kobe Bryant. He gets to tap Stephanie Rice!