Super throw, deep reflector flashlight suggestion please

Yeah……. A 26650 will make a difference …… Not by much if you are running a Panasonic 3100mah, but the beam will be brighter and more sharper with a 26650. I think it has to do with the draw on the cell. I have heard that a TR-J12 puts more lumens out with (2) cells than 3… IMO opinion all lights react different according to the driver and quality of the LED.

Interesting. I’m just running TF Flame 18650s right now. Haven’t gotten Panasonics yet. I am sticking with single cell, single emitters for now. But I wanna at least pull as much as I can out of them. I know I can mod the HD2010 to run more efficient and less hot. But I don’t think I’ll try to do that for now either. Not yet.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the 3100mah, as opposed to my TF 3000mah, only have longer run times, right? WHen I read the reviews here on BLF, it seemed the TF cells from Manafont were fairly consistent with capacity and voltage output. Are the Panasonics really capable of putting out more amps? And it seems the 26650s would have to be higher voltage as well to push these lights to higher amps, as opposed to just delivering longer run times?

(only asking these questions because they should still pertain to the original post about dedicated throwers, not just the HD2010…)

Per experience I bought UF cells 2400mah, 3400mah, 4000mah, 5000mah…… Name it I bought it …….

My lights burn brighter and more constant with a good Panasonic 18650…. There are a lot of good ones like Callies, AW, and my favorite Orbtronics.

All I can explain is that a light running on a 2400 UF will run bright at full power for 5 minutes then empty in 1.5 hours.

A Panasonic will run on full power from the time you turn on until dead and run for 3 or 4 hours….

This is an example, I’m not a battery expert !

With a good cell your flashlight will turn HOT in 30 seconds to a minute, with a budget battery it might get warm…… This at the end means, get the best cells if you want your torch to function at It’s full potential…….

So are saying the 26650 battery puts more amps to the emmitter? If so I will be ordering some tonight, have the ultraok light with the 57mm head and meritline just shipped out my HD2010 today!

It’ll be hard to get 800 yards of throw from any LED light. Even some HIDs have trouble at that distance.

You’ll need a very large reflector to get lots of light that far down, a custom job might be in order. If you need the light to be small, a powerful white laser with a beam spreader (red, green, and a blue laser diodes and a few beam splitters working backwards). The white laser might not give you much spread though.

From selfbuilt’s reviews, the Olight SR95 UT seems to have the most throw out of the LED lights he’s reviewed. The Titanium Innovation’s L35 HID still out throws it though.

Yeah…. You see a different beam, I don’t know how to explain it. I have a Trustfire A8, with a 18650 the center is a round bright circle with no definition, with a 26650 you can see on the wall more definition on the LED…. Does it make sense ? It just puts out more light……

My ST90 SAR90 does pretty good …….

I’m sure it’ll hit 800 yards and more and return good amounts of light (the SR95 UT has similar/slightly higher lux numbers), I’m just not sure how much light he’ll need to easily identify animals at that distance. It won’t hurt for skytop to try it :wink:

Well, it might hurt his wallet a bit.

And don’t forget a good pair of 10x20 binoculars, or a 30x sight… :slight_smile:

i think what you need is the Varapower Turbo Ver.2.0
http://www.lambdalights.com/

its a very sought after light and pretty rare because the maker is just so busy that whenever he makes them, it gets sold out within days. and now theres a wait.

theres alot of comparison shots on cpf and fln against all the highpowered lights.
its kinda puts the sr90 and the tk70 to shame.
its puts out like 200,000 lux.

i own one and it is truly a beast. you can use either 3 d cells or 4 c cells for turbo mode.
it uses an sst-90.

if i knew how to post pictures on here, i would have posted pictures on this beast already.

My buddy got a pair of Orbtronics when I helped him order his first 18650 torch. I’m down to get a couple after your comments. Thanks again. :slight_smile:

Oh… and I was going to say… if someone ends up with a light that reaches 800 yards, that’s farther than we can see detail with the naked eye anyway. Gotta have some pretty good magnification see that far even in daylight.

Glad I could help……

I’m not marketing for anyone, I just post facts that I have seen and tested myself……

Selfbuilt just tested the production version of the Niwalker NWK750, which is pretty robust, according to the torture tests by run4jc. Nice thing is that it performs well on both one and two 18650 cells, and is seemingly a great thrower.

That Niwalker NWK750 you refer to only puts out ~ 39,5 kCd so that is Trustfire X9 territory.

That's 397 meters of ANSI throw.

The Jacob A60 puts out 55 kCd in stock form and I suspect it will go to 65 kCd if modded with different driver.

In stock form thats 470 meters of ANSI throw.

The XR-E is the throwiest of the Cree led offerings.

My first ST-90 Beamshot...... :) !!

To the Moon!

You say this now, but, magnetic ring control is awesome. You can select your output without even turning the light on, touch selection is so inferior to magnetic ring control it’s silly.

Thrunite makes a great product at a great price, the materials are awesome and did anyone mention 100k + lux from an XML?

200 bucks may not fall into most peoples idea of “budget” but compared to an olight SR series (which is about the only real competition for this thing) 200 bucks doesn’t look so bad anymore.

You may soon, and at a lower price than that. Dropping hints around BLF sure has gotten entertaining

What’s the draw going to be?

It’s a thrower, you are only going to get more throw with an XML with a bigger dish strapped to the front and we already have

HD 2010 > med/long range with single 26650 (small pocketable and generally a great buy)

Crelant 7g9 > run at the TN 31, smallish, kindof bleh IMO (a little more lux, not enough to really roll with the 31 in virtually the same size)

TN 31 > awesome materials, magnetic control ring great throw (fit and finish are as good or better than SF, output backs it up)

Seem to have the stubby thrower pretty much covered, I still say I’d like a Thrunite quality level HD 2010 though.

Update on long throw lights:
Ordered Wayne’s ST-90. Eagerly awaiting delivery.
Have a new Sky Ray STL V2. Somewhat inexpensive and has a wicked extra deep, smooth reflector. Exceeds the throw of my SR51 due to its pencil narrow beam.