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40 metre beamshots - Lots of large pictures

I had a nice break in a very peaceful place. One nice thing about being so far from the road is that you couldn't hear the traffic. Here's the assistant checking out the little remaining icy snow.

Assistant

 

I took a few lights (126 of them to be precise)

126 lights

 

Checked out some of the wildlife - red squirrels are seriously endangered here - someone imported American grey squirrels in the nineteenth century and they are displacing the reds. They carry squirrel-pox which is fatal to reds and harmless to greys. In my city the greys have displaced the reds in the last twenty years - in the shire they are feeding contraceptives to every grey squirrel they can find.

Squiddle

But enough of "What I done on my vacation"

 

I tried for some 385 metre (1250 feet) beamshots but the camera's sensor refused to pick up hotspots I could see clearly.

This was the first test range. The green firs are 385 metres away according to Google Earth. The river Don (Which is as high as I've ever seen it) is between the first two power poles.

test 1

 

Here's the little tripod arrangement I used to hold the lights on target. It turned out to be too floppy for the job.

mini tripod

 

Anyway, here's a result from one of my most powerful lights, the EastwardYJ J06 with an XM-L. The third power pole is roughly 200m away. I could clearly see the hotspot on the trees at 385m but ever-increasing exposures didn't help.

EastwardYJ J06 385m

 

So I gave up on that approach and moved off into the trees. I found a nice fire-break. The branch on the ground with the faint red writing on it is a measured 40 metres (130 feet).

40 metre target

 

So on to the shots - there was little moon and the nights were clear and very cold. The nearest light pollution is around 25km away.

Control - not a lot of light. I found my Zebralight H50 on low (around 3 lumens) was perfectly adequate for taking notes of which shot was which - and in fact for wandering through the forest.

Control

 

So here's what 66 lumens, the H50 on high (With a lithium AA primary) looked like on the test range. The exposure was set for the much more powerful lights. It is not a thrower, nor is it intended to be. You can see that what beam there is is wider than the camera's field of view.

Zebralight

 

Varapower 2000 (SST-90 driven hard) on maximum - measured at over 1500 lumens. 4C NiMH in a 3D body.

Varapower 2000

You can clearly see the branch at 40 metres and the point where the ridge drops away at around 55 metres (180 feet)

 

KD RQ Raidfire Spear clone on high (Cree XR-E Q5 or R2). You can clearly see the pencil beam of the dedicated thrower - and the almost complete lack of spill. This is the throwiest light I have. Its output is not enormous but it'll push that pencil spot for over 1000 feet. If I don't say otherwise, all these lights are single 18650s.

RQ high

 

Lumapower MRV High (Again an XR-E - a Q5 I think)

MRV

 

Fusion 36 dropin in a Mag 3D (Running 3D NiMH). I didn't find this one too useful for huge black dog spotting amongst the trees or on open ground - the throwers did it a lot better in the open ground (Usually the HS-802) and the LT3 on level 1 or 2 amongst the trees.

Fusion 36

 

Piritlight SG-L8 high. Yet another Raidfire Spear clone - this one with an MC-E in it making about 550 lumens. It doesn't throw as well as the RQ but puts out a lot more light.

Piritlight SG-L8 high

 

Romisen RC-T6 High - 6xXR-E Q5 (Or Q3 or something). Mine does around 840 lumens from memory. Throws out to about 35 metres. 2x18650

Romisen RC-T6 High

 

Solarforce Skyline 1 - Yet another XR-E thrower - a bit underpowered. This is with two CR123 primaries. Again a typical thrower with little or no spill.

Solarforce Skyline 1

 

EastwardYJ J06 (Cree XM-L T6)

EastwardYJ J06

 

Uniquefire HS-802  with an XM-L T6 and a 3A driver. The LED is mounted off-centre, well nobody ever accused me of being a neat worker.

Uniquefire HS-802 XM-L T6 Mod

 

Romisen RC-T5 4x Cree XR-E Qsomething 2x18650

RC-T5

 

Aurora AK-P7 High - this was my first P7 light and is still pretty respectable in output (around 430lumens)

Aurora AK-P7 High

 

Yezl S5 Cree XP-G R5 14500 high. A nice light, but it gets too hot. It is the same body as the Trustfire F22 which is a better balanced light - and I still miss mine...

Yezl S5 High

 

My only XP-G R4 dropin. It used to be a five-mode but it turned out not to be capable of handling 8.4V and is now a single mode.

XP-G R4

 

DX P7 dropin, high. This is the $23.49 one they've been selling since the P7 appeared.

DX P7 High

 

M bin MC-E dropin high - this one is bright, the brightest MC-E I have.

MC-E M bin

 

Mr.Lite J4 XM-L and reflector mod. High. 14500

J4

 

Golston 7W. A Chinese Lixeon 3 clone LED. Crazy bright in its time, 5-6 years ago. Runs on two 16340's. There are lots and lots of clones of this one around. Some claimed as much as 18W output.

Golston

 

Manafont XM-L T6 dropin high.

T6

 

Ultrafire C303 High. XP-G R5

C303

 

Aurora SH-034 High. 16340. Probably the best-made light of all the ones I own. Cree XR-E R2

SH-034

 

Mr.Lite LT3 Mode 5 (XP-G R5 16340)

LT3

 

Romisen RC-C6 zoomie at high full zoom (16340)

zoomie

 

Romisen RC-C6 full flood - this one is an XR-E Q3

wide

 

Aurora SH-032 High

SH-032

 

Ultrafire RL-118 - An Osram running on a 16340

RL-118

 

Trustfire R5-A3 from the first batch with the silly high "low" level/ 14500/XP-G R5 high

R5-A3

 

Ultrafire C3 R5 14500

C3 R5

 

KD XM-L T6 dropin high

KD XM-L T6

 

Trustfire TR-801 with the TIR optic from a Mr.Lite J4. 

TR-801

 

Trustfire Z1 high (16340 - Cree XP-E)

Z1

 

I can do the mediums and lows if anyone wants them.

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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nice Don!

man the xml drop-ins are awesome in that setting..is your kd drop-in still with the OP reflector?

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pounder wrote:

nice Don!

man the xml drop-ins are awesome in that setting..is your kd drop-in still with the OP reflector?

Pity I hadn't made the exposure shorter, this just shows that pretty much all of them can do 40 metres.

It's completely stock apart from a KD coated lens instead of the original one that came with the body.

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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Wow! Impressive selection of shots here, Don. That must have been a lot of fun. And a lot of work too in order to take so many controlled shots.

This post is going sticky. Thanks for your time on this!

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Great post really enjoyed looking at those beamshots. Thanks for posting them. The XMLs really just put out a ton of light, huge spill and still pretty good throw. I love using my nailbender XML/L2P light, but have to admit I have more fun with my MPP-1/L2. That thing just throws like crazy.

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motodeficient wrote:

Great post really enjoyed looking at those beamshots. Thanks for posting them. The XMLs really just put out a ton of light, huge spill and still pretty good throw.

 

I reckon that throw is a lot less of an issue after 600 lumens which all the XM-Ls can hit with ease. In what is essentially a tunnel between the trees, they are actually too bright - the 3 lumens from a Zebralight H50 on low was plenty. Much over 100 lumens in that sort of environment just dazzles you. Though I must confess to having a huge grin and a 1500 lumen light with me as the assistant and I wandered through those trees at night.

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

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Don wrote:

pounder wrote:

nice Don!

man the xml drop-ins are awesome in that setting..is your kd drop-in still with the OP reflector?

Pity I hadn't made the exposure shorter, this just shows that pretty much all of them can do 40 metres.

It's completely stock apart from a KD coated lens instead of the original one that came with the body.

 

yeah 40 meters for sure..I use a smooth reflector on my kd and it turned it into a pretty good thrower with a defined hotspot..much like the manafont beam profile..worthy upgrade..

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Don - Thanks for all your hard work, I really enjoyed reading that, cheers

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It was actually fun to do, if a bit chilly. I need to find a slightly longer range area though, for those lights 55 metres wasn't enough. I've never had much luck with beamshots with my DSLR but need to give it another try the next time I'm up there.

 

Which will be after I fix my exhaust.

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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Wow Don, thanks for all the beamshots/work. For those of us with little to no collection of lights, this helps out a lot. What host are you using for the Manafont XM-L drop-in?

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Nice shoots Don.

Can you re-roder then with the Xm-L ,xpg and xre etc.

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Thanks Don!  I'm glad you and the assistant are having lots of fun.  That area reminds me a lot of Alaska but with a whole lot less snow. 

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jb1 wrote:

Wow Don, thanks for all the beamshots/work. For those of us with little to no collection of lights, this helps out a lot. What host are you using for the Manafont XM-L drop-in?

 

Solarforce L2m with a KD coated glass lens. If you've had the light a while, the coated lens gives you something like two brightness bins increase in light output. Just cleaning the plain glass one gave something like a bin's worth of increased output.

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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Don wrote:

jb1 wrote:

Wow Don, thanks for all the beamshots/work. For those of us with little to no collection of lights, this helps out a lot. What host are you using for the Manafont XM-L drop-in?

 

Solarforce L2m with a KD coated glass lens. If you've had the light a while, the coated lens gives you something like two brightness bins increase in light output. Just cleaning the plain glass one gave something like a bin's worth of increased output.

Thanks pal. Wanna guess what I'm ordering when I get home from work?  Laughing

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how2 wrote:

Nice shoots Don.

Can you re-roder then with the Xm-L ,xpg and xre etc.

 

Can do, quite easily.

 

XM-L lights

EastwardYJ J06

J06

 

Uniquefire HS-802 XM-L 3A driver

HS-802

 

KD XM-L T6 dropin

KD Dropin

 

Manafont XM-L T6 dropin

Manafont dropin

 

Mr.Lite J4 XM-L mod (14500)

J4

 

XP-G Lights

Ultrafire C3 R5 (14500)

C3

 

Mr.Lite LT3 (16340)

lt3

 

Ultrafire C303

C303

 

Yezl S5 (14500)

S5

 

Trustfire R5-A3

r5a3

 

R4 P60 dropin

r4

 

MC-E Lights

Piritlight SG-L8

L8

 

M-bin MC-E dropin

dropin

 

P7 Lights

Aurora AK-P7

P7

 

DX P7 dropin

DX P7

 

XR-E Lights

Aurora SH-032

32

 

Aurora SH-034 (16340)

34

 

Trustfire TR-801

801

 

Romisen RC-C6 Zoom

zoom

 

Romisen RC-C6 Flood

flood

 

Romisen RC-T5 (2x18650)

t5

 

Romisen RC-T6 (2x18650)

t6

 

Solarforce Skyline 1

1

 

MRV

mrv

 

RQ

rq

 

Zebralight H50

h50

 

SST90 LED

Varapower 2000

varapower

 

XP-E LED

Trustfire Z1

z1

 

Osram LED

Ultrafire RL-118

rl118

 

Chinese Luxeon 3 clone

Golston 7W

golston

 

36 Nichia GS 5mm LEDs in a Fusion 36 Mag dropin

showerhead

 

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

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Thanks Don

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Don wrote:
I took a few lights (126 of them to be precise)

126 lights

 

 

Welcome back Don! Its a good thing that you brought along only a small portion of your flashlight collection, or else your car might have bottomed out from all the extra weight! There's nothing better than being able to use flashlights out in the woods and away from the ambient city light. Its quite obvious that you had a lot of fun with them. Thanks for the great pics. The Manafont XM-L dropin sure puts out an unbelievable amount of light for a P60.
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Huge thanks Don for the awesome shots. They really put into perspective how powerful some of those lights are, especially the xm-l's. This will be a very handy reference. Muchly appreciated:)

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Don,  is that Manafont sku# 5720 ?   How/what are you running it in?

I think I am going to have to get one of those

 

Don,  also thank you very much.  Your pictures are indeed a great point of reference for these lights

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So while we're in the question asking phase of this thread Laughing, do you have the sku for the coated lens at KD? I'll owe you a beamshot with Texas coyotes in it.

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SecaRob wrote:

Don,  is that Manafont sku# 5720 ?   How/what are you running it in?

I think I am going to have to get one of those

 

Don,  also thank you very much.  Your pictures are indeed a great point of reference for these lights

 

yes that is the bright one..the hi, mid, strobe one is crap..

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SecaRob wrote:

Don,  is that Manafont sku# 5720 ?   How/what are you running it in?

I think I am going to have to get one of those

Yes, that's the one. Fed with a single 18650. Pity it isn't 8.4V capable for use with 2 18650s for better runtime. It's put in a Uniquefire L2 (Solarforce L2 clone) or a Solarforce L2m. Wrapped with enough foil to make it difficult to shove the dropin into the head - I use the head threads to force the dropin into place.

 

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jb1 wrote:

So while we're in the question asking phase of this thread Laughing, do you have the sku for the coated lens at KD? I'll owe you a beamshot with Texas coyotes in it.

Sounds good.

Can't remember offhand but I got the link from here.

I'm pretty sure it is 28mm in diameter and I know they were $2.99 each so I think it is this one.

http://www.kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=1766

 

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Excellent shots, Don. Looks like Eastward J06 and Manafont XM-L droppin are the winers, a lot of light Shocked

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SashiX wrote:

Excellent shots, Don. Looks like Eastward J06 and Manafont XM-L droppin are the winers, a lot of light Shocked

 

Combined, they don't make as many lumens as the Varapower. But throw a bit better.

 

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Nice pics Don. I wanted to try out that mouse in/out function for a long time on the 2 XML dropins.

This is the perfect opportunity. Hover with the mouse in or outside the pic below for comparision.

Mouse out= KD

Mouse in = Manafont

KD dropin (mouse out) vs Manafont dropin (in)

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wow after seeing the beamshots the kd looks depressing vs that manafont..Don what is your kd drawing on high? I know your manafont is 3.4a..just asking because my kd is drawing 3.2~3.3a with the cell I have in it..just wondering if they're drawing the same where the difference would be coming from? efficiency?

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Vectrex, that's a really cool feature. I opened up 3 windows and looked at the 2 XM-Ls and the Varapower. Old school.   LOL

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Vectrex wrote:

Nice pics Don. I wanted to try out that mouse in/out function for a long time on the 2 XML dropins.

This is the perfect opportunity. Hover with the mouse in or outside the pic below for comparision.

Mouse out= KD

Mouse in = Manafont

KD dropin (mouse out) vs Manafont dropin (in)

After seeing this I had to double check and see whether I ordered from KD or MF.

Whew!  Manafont it was. Smile

 

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Don wrote:

SashiX wrote:

Excellent shots, Don. Looks like Eastward J06 and Manafont XM-L droppin are the winers, a lot of light Shocked

Combined, they don't make as many lumens as the Varapower. But throw a bit better.

Yeah, but not price vs. power Silly XML will be my next light for sure Cash

BTW, Vectrex, very cool hover feature Shocked I think this is the best way to compare two images. 

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SashiX wrote:

BTW, Vectrex, very cool hover feature Shocked I think this is the best way to compare two images. 

And it is built-in on BLF ... the third tab on the picture symbol (tree)... so it is even easier than animated GIFs... which can be annoying sometimes.

Little how-to: insert the picture (pic1) as you would normally (with "100 %"-trick ) after that -> picture symbol (tree) -> Advanced ( third tab) -> Swap image -> for mouse over (pic2) -> for mouse out (pic1)

Downside is that only 2 images can be compared this way.

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