New warm Zebralights

Monitor calibration.

It looked too orange/red on my monitor also, until I remembered that I haven't calibrated my monitor! I reinstalled Win7 on my PC a month or so ago and totally forgot about using my X-Rite One Eye monitor calibrator.

Unless you have calibrated your monitor with a calibration device you will not see a true representation of colour.

I hate it when American announcers try to sound so smarty when they say, "An historic achievement", and aspirate the H. Ugh. Reveals their ignorance, instead of concealing it. Freakin' ivy league know-it-all elites. Just say "a historic achievement" unless you really know what a mute H is, and have a damn-good reason to use it this side of the pond! I remember watching Tom Brokaw do that endlessly as a teenager on dad's nightly news.

The biggest irony is that the letter "H" itself is typically pronounced... with a mute H! OMG. "Aeche" instead of "Hayche". Heck (not eck), the consonant should be named "Hay" not "Ayche". (I think it is in Hebrew?) This had never even occurred to me until I heard an Arab say the English alphabet to me, pronouncing the letter H as I would forevermore consider proper.

Hope I didn't spoil any Consonant Olympics where the gold metal is an 18650 delivered by Royal Mail.... seems like there should've been enough time. And although I'm a native English-speaker, I hope that at least tickled your anglophile fancy ;) . As you can see, I have a strong-willed streak of 'skilled independence' when it comes to language, and communication in general. Too much mechanics and it gets in the way of actual communication, which defeats the true purpose of convention.

Wearing my computer fixing hat.

One does not calibrate monitors, one calibrates workflows. I charge $3500 per machine. And that is the cheap bit. Calibrating printing presses costs a lot.

The ideal is that what comes in the door is what comes off the press. I have yet to accomplish that. Printers get paid to sort this. And usually do it very well.

I have caused a strike by refusing to allow printers to sort the mess out. I was (incidentally) trying to make their skills obsolete and they didn't like it.

Don: I haven't been using english in writing for a long long time so most of the time I'm rolling a dice when it comes to the "a and an" (which I guess you're were referring to). And to be honest I just read up on how to use "a and an" and still don't have a clue how to use them. So I forfeit the competition and leave it for someone else to explain.

Trancersteve: I hear you about the "limited runs". I think that sort of move in some way steers the market in the direction of cool whites ("bah, NW is just for those nitpicky fools who doesn't understand that cool whites gives more lumens which ALWAYS is to prefer") and I honestly think that most people would prefer NW if they just had the opportunity to try. It's a shame really, but one day when we have enough lumens (like we ever going to :) ) I hope more people start buying NW.

And yeah, incandescents most times are more toys then truly useful.

EDIT: WOW! Am I a slow writer or what? :)

Dang, man. $149.

X-Rite Eye-One Display LT, Accurate Monitor Calibration

http://www.amazon.com/X-Rite-Display-LT-Calibration-Conscious/dp/B000NRODT4

Looks like everyone involved in the "tint wars" needs one of these.

Is there a cheaper way to do it? Like, without hardware and with free software?

And so, you're saying there is definitely no orangey tint to it? Yet, there is a yellow tint? How close is it to an incandescent? (Perhaps even a comparison beamshot, as long as you've gone this far? Don't want to get greedy... but I think there is a dearth of info.)

Not only did you get it absolutely correct, you knew how most native English speakers would get it wrong. Many of the people I went to school with (And the only language any of us could read was English.) would not even understand what the question meant.

PM me your address and there is an 18650 on its way to you.

I could ask this question of any thousand people who were born in an English-speaking country and they would get it wrong.

Most Swedes speak better English than I do.

I do try to persuade people to get it right. Most people don't so I do try to encourage those who do.

No wonder you can afford so many lights!

As you know, a software based ICC monitor profile is generated from the readings of the hardware calibrator.

The term work flow I normally only introduce when printing, here we are just wanting to see as close as possible (on screen) a true representation of colour. Colour spaces can be a nightmare and this can add more depth to the problem. But on the whole (at home) one can achieve very good results from a device which costs in the region of £100.

I have had much success with work flow from my Canon DSLR, X-Site One Eye and a Canon Pixma inkjet, I am able to produce printed results that match the on screen image.

My favorite despite the ultracrap body with a warm $ 1.5 emitter , amazing at 700 ma...

http://budgetlightforum.cz.cc/node/1659

Many thanks Don

It's really nice of you to stand by your word but I can't accept a battery by just being lucky with the keyboard. :)

Better save it for the upcoming raffle... (see what I did there? )


To be honest brjones I wouldn't say you should buy one.

Unless you are into graphic design or photography, it would be a waste of money to buy one with the sole reason just to look at the tint from lights.

There is no software available which can do the job of a calibrator.. this piece of hardware is needed to give you a base reading (so to speak) of your monitor and correct/compensate for the 'wrong' colours which are being displayed.

So 'an' was actually correct? It sounds wrong to me when I read it but what do I know--english is my secondary language. I just learned something new today.

In American English, 'an' is incorrect. I guess it's different across the pond.

Edit: I did a little research, and it is different in the U.K./Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_and_an#Indefinite_article

I .would also say a not an in that sentence

The "n" thing is because in English English an initial h is usually not pronounced. The way I speak, the "h" would be pronounced but I would write (I hope) "an high power". In England that would be pronounced "an 'igh power" hence the "n". Once upon a time I had to teach English...

If the "h" is silent in America, we will actually use the article "an", such as: I only have to wait an hour. But, of course, the silent "h" happens more frequently in Europe.

Intersting wiki link. I vaguely remembered the vowel rule but any time when naming an emitter knew intuitively that 'a' XXX don't sound good,

mmm and I was working on incandescent being an adjective

ahh too much work for a 18650....<< get it ...a 18650..not an 18650 ...never mind !!

I still wanna know who the first one to PM Don was ?? because he said first to pm him ..what no one follows rules here

somehow this seemed appropriate ..... somehow....Dr.jones talking about winning the olympics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhcB9ucmdg

http://www.toonpool.com/cartoons/Olympic%20smoke_21926

Anyway since i don't have a zebralight I suppose I have nothing to contribute ..smug pompus bas**rds ...I guess I'll just have to go out and buy one so i can complain about tints and it looks like i have to break the 140 flashlight mark as well ..damn it all

Blimey.. what happened to this thread?

Back on topic ;-)

You had the neutral light for a few days now. How are your "long term" observations? Would you buy the H51w or the standard H51 if you had no angle headlamp at all? I am still undecided what I value more... total output vs. colour rendering.

Actually i had 2 coming to me in the mail and got them both today ..whee..! I'm a big shot now ... unfortunately still have nothing worthwhile to contribute ...but it's possible ..got the H501AA http://www.zebralight.com/H501-Headlamp-AA-Flood-w-new-UI_p_11.html and the H31 cr123 http://www.zebralight.com/H31-Headlamp-CR123-220Lm_p_25.html both are incredibly small .. very cool UI and super low low..