xml2 announced!!!!

Wow yes, that sucks.

“Up to 20” is what Cree says. I believe I saw someone say the 20 takes into account the variability in bins where you could have one LED at the bottom of the bin and another in the same bin, but at the top of its range. That gives you 7, but that’s true of any two LED’s in the same bin. On CPF, Selfbuilt compared Foursevens XP-G lights against the newer XP-G2 lights where 20 is also thrown out and he said he wasn’t getting that much.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?344978

The Cree datasheet for the XM-L2 goes up to a U2 bin, but I don’t know if that will really be available. Because the LED’s are binned differently, what do you compare against? The two top bins: XM-L U3 vs. XM-L2 U2? Right now it seems like T6 and U2 are the most available XM-L bins. Once we know real-world bins for the XM-L2 and people start taking measurements, it will be easier to do comparisons.

actually, it looks like the whole top side is two solder pads, which is AWESOME

I will now have to upgrade a good many of my lights. At least I don't plan on buying any more in the near future.

Now overdrive and de-dome it.

Neat… now to wait 2 months while someone gets them in stock

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Yes it will!

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/XMLBWT-02-0000-0000U2051/XMLBWT-02-0000-0000U2051-ND/3778381

Price will be nice as well. XM-L2 U2 is basically XM-L U4, one word - WOW!

I see Mouser has some in stock neutral white 5000k 75 cri T6 bin for 6.82

So, these can be ordered today from DigiKey or Mouser. Voltage is the same, mounting is the same, size is the same... Hhhmm - so, just order them and try mounting on a star? Not sure if the DigiKey U2 one can be equated to 1A/1B/1C, etc. Can that be determined from the CREE part # or that now obsolete for XM-L2's?

Am I wrong here, is there something I'm missing? Not sure if anyone said the mounting dims are the same. From the diagram above, looks like the pads are the same layout, not sure of the dimensions...

Update: Crap, not in stock anywhere. Mouser has a min order of 151 or 250, something like that. Looks like DigiKey min order is 250 looks like -- that sucks...

the T6 is minimum order of 1 at Mouser http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=XMLBWT-02-0000-000LT60E3virtualkey57280000virtualkey941-XMLBWT020LT60E3

Yep, been trying thru DigiKey - found a part# for T6's of Qty 1, but now it shows no stock for Qty 1 but has stock for Qty 250 -- the game is fixed!!

Mouser has 193 of the t6 , 475 t2 and 250 t5

Yes! I see that now. So, basically you can get an XM-L2 T6 rated at the same brightness as an XML U3. Not sure how good this is, but looks like the T6 is a neutral color. Hhhmm. Are you ordering any? Anyone else? Will these really work on a stock XML star? I know the voltage is good, I think the LED (itself) size is good, not sure of the mounting dimensions.

How the heck are you supposed to know what tint you’re paying for with Mouser, Digikey, Newark, etc?

Not sure, but here: http://www.mouser.com/new/cree/cree-XML2/ they give you temp and CRI -- I think there is a way to determine 1A vs 3C, etc this way. Certainly the T6 for Mouser Mouser T6 is 5000K, so it's in the range of a 3C (http://flashlightwiki.com/File:Ansiwhite.jpg) but could be a 3A or 3D??

20% is in reality still only 5% to the eye ..it won't wow you ..

This is another conspiracy by Cree to make you buy another purple cw emitter.

seems to work

My opinion of the xpg2 nw 4c is it's very very good compared to a nichia it's very close to the same cri maybe a bit pinker than the nchia but also much brighter ..2thumbs up on the xpg2 nw....4c

Well, I don't think a 5000K tint will be purple... We are talking T6 neutral - meaning yellow/green. Tint snobs say purple, lumens snobs say yellow/green .

It's an XML T6 3C on steroids - increasing muscle mass by 20% ain't easy, getting 20% more horsepower (ex: 300 to 360 hp) in your car is gonna cost you some major bucks and a lot of work... Now if only I could lose 20% of my body weight... Ex: 220 lbs down to 176 lbs.

But who could supply a new type of driver for us to fiddle with?
WWEFANS / rey?
Fasttech / Intl-O? Any ideas?

I think it should be done some way or the other…

Im glad cnqualitygoods had to cancel my order for the 10 U3’s I ordered. The only problem is that I have several flashlights taken apart and awaiting their new XM-L’s. I bet we wait a good 3-6 months before the “2” becomes available outside of Cutter.

If you read this thread you’ll see that both Digikey and Mouser are already stocking the XML2…