xml2 announced!!!!

the T6 is minimum order of 1 at Mouser http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=XMLBWT-02-0000-000LT60E3virtualkey57280000virtualkey941-XMLBWT020LT60E3

Yep, been trying thru DigiKey - found a part# for T6's of Qty 1, but now it shows no stock for Qty 1 but has stock for Qty 250 -- the game is fixed!!

Mouser has 193 of the t6 , 475 t2 and 250 t5

Yes! I see that now. So, basically you can get an XM-L2 T6 rated at the same brightness as an XML U3. Not sure how good this is, but looks like the T6 is a neutral color. Hhhmm. Are you ordering any? Anyone else? Will these really work on a stock XML star? I know the voltage is good, I think the LED (itself) size is good, not sure of the mounting dimensions.

How the heck are you supposed to know what tint you’re paying for with Mouser, Digikey, Newark, etc?

Not sure, but here: http://www.mouser.com/new/cree/cree-XML2/ they give you temp and CRI -- I think there is a way to determine 1A vs 3C, etc this way. Certainly the T6 for Mouser Mouser T6 is 5000K, so it's in the range of a 3C (http://flashlightwiki.com/File:Ansiwhite.jpg) but could be a 3A or 3D??

20% is in reality still only 5% to the eye ..it won't wow you ..

This is another conspiracy by Cree to make you buy another purple cw emitter.

seems to work

My opinion of the xpg2 nw 4c is it's very very good compared to a nichia it's very close to the same cri maybe a bit pinker than the nchia but also much brighter ..2thumbs up on the xpg2 nw....4c

Well, I don't think a 5000K tint will be purple... We are talking T6 neutral - meaning yellow/green. Tint snobs say purple, lumens snobs say yellow/green .

It's an XML T6 3C on steroids - increasing muscle mass by 20% ain't easy, getting 20% more horsepower (ex: 300 to 360 hp) in your car is gonna cost you some major bucks and a lot of work... Now if only I could lose 20% of my body weight... Ex: 220 lbs down to 176 lbs.

But who could supply a new type of driver for us to fiddle with?
WWEFANS / rey?
Fasttech / Intl-O? Any ideas?

I think it should be done some way or the other…

Im glad cnqualitygoods had to cancel my order for the 10 U3’s I ordered. The only problem is that I have several flashlights taken apart and awaiting their new XM-L’s. I bet we wait a good 3-6 months before the “2” becomes available outside of Cutter.

If you read this thread you’ll see that both Digikey and Mouser are already stocking the XML2…

This sounds great. So can you tell me, does this mean the XML-2 has a higher output and also will use more power- in other words have a little less run time but just more output, or has the efficiency stayed the same or better??

Feel like holding off on new lights until these start showing up!

Same power, more output

EDIT
http://flashlightwiki.com/Cree#XM-L
XM-L2 chart is just below to compare

From my experience with the XP-G2s, it seems like the domes come off much easier on the new SiC die emitters. Anyone share the same experience as I have?
I’ve accidentally de-domed three XP-G2s while reflowing the emitter and two emitters survived.

I wonder if this is the case with the XM-L2s as well…

Just ordered Qty 3 of the T6's from Mouser:

Select
Product Detail
Customer Part #
Order Qty.
Price
(USD)
Ext.
(USD)
Status Date Invoice #
3 $6.82 $20.46
3 Pending Pending -

The details are sketchy on this. Does Mouser have the stock or the vendor, Cree, have the stock? If it's Cree, looks like 5 weeks estimated shipping. Tried calling Mouser but they are closed weekends of course. Hopefully can find out more Monday.

These T6's are definitiely 5000K and 75 CRI, hoping they are"3C" equivalent or cooler - not sure how to tell or convert. I chose USPS Priority for $6.99, so total for Qty 3 is $27.45.

Update: reviewed the chromaticity chart (here) again, so for 5000K it should be 3A, 3B, 3C, or 3D. I'm thinking 3C because the only XM-L T6 Mouser carries is the same 5000K and 75 CRI.

Anyone else try ordering these?

I ordered 7 yesterday , they shipped it UPS 2 day

You’re misunderstanding a bit how LEDs work.
A LED uses exactly as much power as driver feeds it with. No matter whether you grab 10A / 40W SST-90, 3A / 10W XM-L, or 3W / 1A XP-E, if you drive them with same constant-current driver, they all will use same amount of power.

To further clarify, the XM-L2 LED's should produce more output when driven by the same amount of power as an XM-L. This is their advantage - next generation, more lumens/per amp at the same voltage and same temperature, same package size. So, if the cost is the same and the bin, tint, and beam pattern&color is all the same, and they actually do perform better as stated, they would replace XM-L. There are a lot of "if's" there though and CREE doesn't have a stellar record with filling out the product family offerings, or filling them out quickly.

But if direct drive, say an XM-L will pull 3A, but an XP-G will only pull 1A. If my understanding is correct. Which would be valid to the original question. Basically asking if XM-L2 would handle more amperage or be more efficient with the same amperage.

Don’t beat me up to bad, I’m still a newb :slight_smile:

Direct drive is very silly way of driving a LED. Don’t do it.