Just like you Don the SF lights just didnt fit the bill......for me it seems that i have some other lights that will out do them any day. It may seem that im downing them when im not, when it comes to lights its more like- to each his own. For the price that my wife was going to pay i could have gotten two other lights that would have made me just as happy, or i could have gotten more lithiums and nimh packs.
I don't get Surefire either. Someone gave me a 6P as a gift. I keep it in a drawer by the bed but never use it. It's expensive for what it is. It's not bright by todays standards and I don't see what the fuss is all about...granted I don't have the other more expensive models.
I also chuckle when I read about your life depending on a light. I'm not a cop but I do scuba dive in very cold waters with limited visability where I use a light on every dive. I've heard divers referring to lights as "life support equipment". It's ridiculous. No one's life depends on a flashlight or you're leading your life wrong. :) I'd rather have two cheap poorly made lights than one good light (not that I try to have poorly made lights).
I get tired of hearing about "quality lights" on CPF as well. If a DX light needs a little work it's "I told you so" but if a Surefire light doesn't work we hear about how great their customer service is. If I owned a "quality" light I would assume that I would have no idea if that company had a great customer service as I should never come into contact with them!
Now that is a good point.....thats one thing you will never hear im afraid. Too me there just another light company, and you have some others that are on the cutting edge when it comes to lights.
To me the oddest thing about CPF is not the weird affection for Surefire it's the way the administors have rules, no one knows what they are, if you ask your question is deleted and your original post is either deleted or closed.
I know that when I first went there I through about leaving just because it seemed like such a creepy place...controlling moderators and most posters who seemed OK with that.
Now I just ignore it and since it's such a large forum you really can learn a lot and get opinions and feedback from a large number of people. I'm more interested in do it yourself issues rather than reviews of expensive lights or talk of the next greatest light that may be coming out sometime.
I'm also amazed at the few expensive custom drop-ins that everyone recommends as "the best". Most of the time they are not even available and the person making them has a long "waiting list" for the honor of paying $100 for a drop-in. :)
That's a great thing about this forum. If you want to ask people what they think of some light on DX, you can just ask and include a link. You don't get scolded for "advertising" even though you are just asking an honest question. And nobody will go on a rant about how awful budget lights are and that you should be breaking the bank on something a lot more expensive.
Especially when there are some great BL lights that are out there.
Sorry to get off-topic but perhaps I can ask the question here rather than stop a new thread...are there any divers on this board yet? Especially any who are interested in DIY type of projects. Certain questions can be asked of any do it yourself types and others probably should be asked only of those who dive.
Also, I'm curious as to the demographics of the members here. Are most people from the EU (I'm from the US by the way)?
Theres a couple of us from the US.....Ted and I are a couple........And Ted if your reading this i lost your number, call me if you can.
This thread started with deep wondering about the CPF forum and its rather funny policies.
Try finding the difference between these postings:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=264912
and
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=274168
They both starts with a link, but one was closed, as adverticing is not allowed
Gues which one: The one linking to DX light or the other linking to an american light?
So you don't consider Hawaii as part of the US? Dang.
Aloha Bryan! Where in the US? Just curious.
Edit: Nevermind, I just checked your acct.
Sorry Pete......yes you guys are part of us.....so how the hell are you doing.
Thanks brted! That's the experience that we're aiming for on BLF. Glad you are enjoying it, and thanks for your help and expertise too.
Sorry to get off-topic but perhaps I can ask the question here rather than stop a new thread...are there any divers on this board yet? Especially any who are interested in DIY type of projects. Cetain questions can be asked of any do it yourself types and others probably should be asked only of those who dive.
Also, I'm curious as to the demographics of the members here. Are most people from the EU (I'm from the US by the way)?
Good question. You prompted me to take a look at the site stats system, and this is what it tells me:
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Here's one from a guy complaining about how long it takes for his posts to appear but instead of an apology they just close the thread. Poor guy.
Poor guy, indeed. He was even trying to be sort of funny so it wouldn't sound like a rude complaint.
I know right?
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=267791
Some serious self-righteousness going on there. More for the ignore list.
Really don't know why I bother any more - the general level of obnoxiousness is incredible.
Thats funny that you posted this, since i was reading it last night. I wanted to post something and should have but the Z monster kept kicking my arse.
It sucks now that it only takes a few people to get the thread closed, when theres really nothing to argue about at all.
And completely the wrong people got castigated.
The argumentative @£%$^%$^& who called in DiM51 was the one needing kicked hard. Which is why I rarely bother reading and have a very long ignore list on CPF. Some of the moderators are those most deserving of being permanently ignored.
My patience with this sort of heavy handed nonsense is nil. Where I work, behaving like that gets staff badly hurt - and IMO they richly deserve it.
Sadly, Wikipedia is horribly prone to the same sort of nonsense which is why it will never be taken seriously.