The only light I have ever seen that took a drop test like that, was one that had a very thick rubber outer skin on the whole light. It would bounce, but it never would break. Also it had a plastic lens which never broke. Yes, I did a torture test with it, throwing it hard on the concrete several times... It felt very satisfying, except it wouldn't break, LOL. Maglites fall apart rather easily too.
Looks like it's going to be cheaper to buy two new lights than to buy replacement parts for these guys.
I have set aside an infirmary for the incoming patients.
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All the talk about the ZL's being delicate flowers...what a crock of crap! That's some tough stuff!! I have new respect for the two I have now but I will NEVER put them through any of that stuff.
The SC600 peaked at 142 degrees Fahrenheit (43 Celsius) and the UF-T50 peaked at 189 degrees Fahrenheit (87.22). As I was watching the temperature rise I thought that surely they would both survive since they already survived at 200 degrees in the oven. Then the UF-T50 started to flicker, I decided to leave it running. After 1 minute of flickering it went in to a moonlight mode…When I disconnected it from the power supply it turned off (since there was no power). I let it cool for around 2 hours and then put a battery in it to test it, it didn’t turn on…
And both had been boiled at 212F. I guess the UF-T50 had had enough fun. Oh well. Thanks for your excellent work! This has definitely been eye opening. Looking forward to seeing if the SC600 can survive mkett39’s tests
Am on test number five and already feel that what I’ve learned so far was worth what both lights cost.
That’s telling! One gets what one pays for?
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Nice work guys. Funniest competition I've heard off for along time. OL, no piking out now. The whole of BLF is going to be watching you wave your magic over these two lights so that they may be something they were never meant to be. Good luck.
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I think the dimming of the SC600 after a while is the built-in timer in it. Using a stopwatch, I have tried it several times in my SC600. If started on TURBO mode, the light will step-down to HIGH after exactly 5min, 3 secs., or if a ‘tired’ cell is used, then it will step-down anytime below 5min.
A bit of glass is missing on the SC600, right?! It needs emergency care before mkett39’s bucket of oil! The T50 is dead, its lost already. Let us treat our wounded! Please!
A bit of glass is missing on the SC600, right?! It needs emergency care before mkett39's bucket of oil! The T50 is dead, its lost already. *Let us treat our wounded! Please!*
Yes in that second picture there is a piece of missing glass, when it cracked that part was no where to be found.
OL, no piking out now. The whole of BLF is going to be watching you wave your magic over these two lights so that they may be something they were never meant to be. Good luck.
Just got the package and do I have some news for you! I decided just for the heck of it to drop a fresh battery in the UF and she functions perfectly. So it seems we will have two working lights to conduct the test on. Hope to do test fri or Sat and will post pics and results.
Just got the package and do I have some news for you! I decided just for the heck of it to drop a fresh battery in the UF and she functions perfectly. So it seems we will have two working lights to conduct the test on. Hope to do test fri or Sat and will post pics and results.
Yes! The T50 comes back with a game tying touchdown with 2 minutes left in the game!!
I’m willing to bet it had a bad connection with the head off the body tube. The pill in the T50 is basically soldered to the body and you can break this solder connection and have issues, I have with mine, but if it’s together snugly mine works fine.
I'm willing to bet it had a bad connection with the head off the body tube. The pill in the T50 is basically soldered to the body and you can break this solder connection and have issues, I have with mine, but if it's together snugly mine works fine.
My guess is that some water left in the light caused a short somewhere. When dried up it worked again, just like the pre-smartphone Nokia's that were submerged: open it up, let dry for a week, put in a fresh battery and presto!
Just got the package and do I have some news for you! I decided just for the heck of it to drop a fresh battery in the UF and she functions perfectly. So it seems we will have two working lights to conduct the test on. Hope to do test fri or Sat and will post pics and results.
Wow! I am shocked! I tried both the power supply and 3 different 18650s. I just realized I did leave some batteries in those lights, so enjoy the new batteries mket.
Have the same batteries been through the testing with these two lights the entire time? If so, no one tried a different battery until just now??
No, it killed one of my batteries. Sent to scaru without because 1) it’s about the lights not the batteries and 2) didn’t want any problems with the geniuses at the post office
Have the same batteries been through the testing with these two lights the entire time? If so, no one tried a different battery until just now??
No, it killed one of my batteries. Sent to scaru without because 1) it's about the lights not the batteries and 2) didn't want any problems with the geniuses at the post office :D
Have the same batteries been through the testing with these two lights the entire time? If so, no one tried a different battery until just now??
No, it killed one of my batteries. Sent to scaru without because 1) it’s about the lights not the batteries and 2) didn’t want any problems with the geniuses at the post office
How did it kill it?
Just tested it to answer your question and looks like I spoke too soon because it’s working again. Left the batteries in for everything except the two bakings and the boiling. After the second baking which was to dry both lights out and my final test, the battery I’d been using in the UF-T50 wouldn’t put out. Thought at first the light had died but popped in a new battery and it worked. My guess is all the water leaking into the UF-T50’s battery compartment eventually somehow took its toll but only temporarily. At least it didn’t pull a Boeing 787 Dreamliner at Shadow HQ
It’s the Jesus light. It keeps coming back from the dead.
Call it ‘Lazarus’ or ‘Phoenix’!
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OK, here is the picture showing both lights working the day of the test.
Now what was strange once again as the t50 was working since I had gotten and it in fact was not the battery. Both batteries tested at 4.04 volts but something revived it. However, after taking this picture and getting ready for the oil dunk it knocked against the ZL and went out. Never to come back on! I could hear something rattling in the pill but to no avail would not work but continued anyway with all test.
The oil bucket with low viscosity hydraulic oil. sc600 first
T50
I found no evidence of oil getting in. I used tape on the sc600’s lens which worked fine.
Prepare to be drug along behind my pick-up. SC600 is on
SC600 broke my small line about 50 to 75 ft in but T50 went about 300ft before coming off.
The SC600 was off when I picked it up and would not turn again. A few scratches and such but both lights took it well with no broken parts.
The PUNISHER!!!
prepare to be rolled over!
After first roll over
Both lights dirty but fine.
Now for second one I turned the lights 90 degrees
SC600 after being rolled over twice in two different positions. No crushing and everything was able to be unscrewed effortlessly.
The T50 on the other hand did not do as well
Side by side you can see the winner!
I am sorry the T50 got bent as I would have like to have seen it fixed and working again but now we know.
I want to thank The Shadow for allowing me to take part in this testing. Overall for what these lights went through I think either one would hold up well to normal use and minor mishaps.
The only light I have ever seen that took a drop test like that, was one that had a very thick rubber outer skin on the whole light. It would bounce, but it never would break. Also it had a plastic lens which never broke. Yes, I did a torture test with it, throwing it hard on the concrete several times... It felt very satisfying, except it wouldn't break, LOL. Maglites fall apart rather easily too.
Looks like it's going to be cheaper to buy two new lights than to buy replacement parts for these guys.
I have set aside an infirmary for the incoming patients.
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All the talk about the ZL's being delicate flowers...what a crock of crap! That's some tough stuff!! I have new respect for the two I have now but I will NEVER put them through any of that stuff.
And both had been boiled at 212F. I guess the UF-T50 had had enough fun. Oh well. Thanks for your excellent work! This has definitely been eye opening.
I will send that out on monday since I didn't get a chance to today.
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What a great shot. http://youtu.be/4T-9T2OL5dQ?t=3m2s
That’s telling! One gets what one pays for?
“It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.” – Sydney Carton in ‘A Tale of Two Cities’ by Charles Dickens (1812-1870).
Easy enough to put a new lens in that SC600, and its good as new
Awesome and entertaining work!
Nice work guys. Funniest competition I've heard off for along time. OL, no piking out now. The whole of BLF is going to be watching you wave your magic over these two lights so that they may be something they were never meant to be. Good luck.
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"My man mousehole needs one too"
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I think the dimming of the SC600 after a while is the built-in timer in it. Using a stopwatch, I have tried it several times in my SC600. If started on TURBO mode, the light will step-down to HIGH after exactly 5min, 3 secs., or if a ‘tired’ cell is used, then it will step-down anytime below 5min.
A bit of glass is missing on the SC600, right?! It needs emergency care before mkett39’s bucket of oil!
The T50 is dead, its lost already.
Let us treat our wounded! Please!
xkcd.com/1603 Li-ion battery safety 101.
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Yes in that second picture there is a piece of missing glass, when it cracked that part was no where to be found.
My LED comparison thread with links.
Tint, Binning, and CRI Explanation (For the XM-L)
http://budgetlightforum.com/node
+100 We’re counting on you! But no pressure
The package is now on its way to mkett!
My LED comparison thread with links.
Tint, Binning, and CRI Explanation (For the XM-L)
http://budgetlightforum.com/node
For your entertainment during this intermission, the last gasp in the life of the UF-T50, skillfully brought to you by scaru:
Just got the package and do I have some news for you! I decided just for the heck of it to drop a fresh battery in the UF and she functions perfectly. So it seems we will have two working lights to conduct the test on. Hope to do test fri or Sat and will post pics and results.
Have the same batteries been through the testing with these two lights the entire time? If so, no one tried a different battery until just now??
I’m willing to bet it had a bad connection with the head off the body tube. The pill in the T50 is basically soldered to the body and you can break this solder connection and have issues, I have with mine, but if it’s together snugly mine works fine.
Que “eye of the tiger”…….
This stuff just got real!
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What an awesome concept, it’s good to know what kind of extremes our torches can stand.
My guess is that some water left in the light caused a short somewhere. When dried up it worked again, just like the pre-smartphone Nokia's that were submerged: open it up, let dry for a week, put in a fresh battery and presto!
link to djozz tests
Wow! I am shocked! I tried both the power supply and 3 different 18650s. I just realized I did leave some batteries in those lights, so enjoy the new batteries mket.
My LED comparison thread with links.
Tint, Binning, and CRI Explanation (For the XM-L)
http://budgetlightforum.com/node
No, it killed one of my batteries. Sent to scaru without because 1) it’s about the lights not the batteries and 2) didn’t want any problems with the geniuses at the post office
How did it kill it?
My LED comparison thread with links.
Tint, Binning, and CRI Explanation (For the XM-L)
http://budgetlightforum.com/node
Just tested it to answer your question and looks like I spoke too soon because it’s working again. Left the batteries in for everything except the two bakings and the boiling. After the second baking which was to dry both lights out and my final test, the battery I’d been using in the UF-T50 wouldn’t put out. Thought at first the light had died but popped in a new battery and it worked. My guess is all the water leaking into the UF-T50’s battery compartment eventually somehow took its toll but only temporarily. At least it didn’t pull a Boeing 787 Dreamliner at Shadow HQ
Call it ‘Lazarus’ or ‘Phoenix’!
“It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.” – Sydney Carton in ‘A Tale of Two Cities’ by Charles Dickens (1812-1870).
OK, here is the picture showing both lights working the day of the test.
Now what was strange once again as the t50 was working since I had gotten and it in fact was not the battery. Both batteries tested at 4.04 volts but something revived it. However, after taking this picture and getting ready for the oil dunk it knocked against the ZL and went out. Never to come back on! I could hear something rattling in the pill but to no avail would not work but continued anyway with all test.
The oil bucket with low viscosity hydraulic oil. sc600 first
T50
I found no evidence of oil getting in. I used tape on the sc600’s lens which worked fine.
Prepare to be drug along behind my pick-up. SC600 is on
SC600 broke my small line about 50 to 75 ft in but T50 went about 300ft before coming off.
The SC600 was off when I picked it up and would not turn again. A few scratches and such but both lights took it well with no broken parts.
The PUNISHER!!!
prepare to be rolled over!
After first roll over
Both lights dirty but fine.
Now for second one I turned the lights 90 degrees
SC600 after being rolled over twice in two different positions. No crushing and everything was able to be unscrewed effortlessly.
The T50 on the other hand did not do as well
Side by side you can see the winner!
I am sorry the T50 got bent as I would have like to have seen it fixed and working again but now we know.
I want to thank The Shadow for allowing me to take part in this testing. Overall for what these lights went through I think either one would hold up well to normal use and minor mishaps.
The T50 looks like it’s on the way to be Old-Lumens next right angle light. haha
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