Fake chargers (XTAR, Nitecore)!!!

[kreisler]

nitecore i4 fakes exist

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350685446797

( dont ask, i am just guessing )

[DENGOH]

I bought a WP6 II last month, it terminates very precisely at 4.2V. I think it is good one.

[dchomak]

@Muto

Got an Xtar WP2 II charger today from Wallbuys from the awesome Christmas sale and it has the user guide complete with optional accessories shown so I have to think it is legit.
I doubt the copycats would go to the expense of nicely printed manuals, but i could be wrong.
Anyway, I am charging a battery on it as we speak and no smoke has come out of it

Will check voltage when the battery finishes charging.
Later,
Keith

P.S. Clones make the world go round.

I can’t believe at what some of you guys look at to determine if something is legit or not. Printing or the shade of a label will not necessarily tell you what you want to know. If you want to get paranoid, you should know that the counterfeiting can go a lot deeper than you may care to think about. Chips, IC’s resisters, capacitors etc are all counterfeited. I have said it before and I will say it again.

Do you want to spend a lot of money and be cheated, or would rather spend a little, and be cheated.

It is an impossible situation in China, and until they are able to change the way they think and do business, their society will reap the results of all the short cuts they are using, trying to progress.

oops, gotta go, the wife brought home Chinese……………

[DENGOH]

@dchomak

@Muto

Got an Xtar WP2 II charger today from Wallbuys from the awesome Christmas sale and it has the user guide complete with optional accessories shown so I have to think it is legit.
I doubt the copycats would go to the expense of nicely printed manuals, but i could be wrong.
Anyway, I am charging a battery on it as we speak and no smoke has come out of it

Will check voltage when the battery finishes charging.
Later,
Keith

P.S. Clones make the world go round.

I can’t believe at what some of you guys look at to determine if something is legit or not. Printing or the shade of a label will not necessarily tell you what you want to know. If you want to get paranoid, you should know that the counterfeiting can go a lot deeper than you may care to think about. Chips, IC’s resisters, capacitors etc are all counterfeited. I have said it before and I will say it again.

Do you want to spend a lot of money and be cheated, or would rather spend a little, and be cheated.

It is an impossible situation in China, and until they are able to change the way they think and do business, their society will reap the results of all the short cuts they are using, trying to progress.

Cosmetic wise we can really tell between fakes and genuine. Internal circuits can also tell us something. And I have seen a fake selling higher price than the real one. Believe it or not, selling price is the easiest to be faked.

[Jerrycobra]

i also have a wp2, but i bought it quite a while ago, back in maybe september? it was ebay and an american seller

it came in a study box, a plastic tray, instructions, charging cable (wall socket and car charger) and 2 spacers

[wshyang]

I actually bought 2 xtar chargers from hkequipment, are those legit or not?

[scaru]

Just got a reply from my contact with bestvaping, here a transcript is.

20:17:30

me

Also, any additional information in regards to who was involved and how to detect a counterfeit would be appreciated.

20:28:25

[Redacted]

all our charger are not fake, we buy the XTAR charger from XTAR company purchaser, and their purchaser just get from XTAR factory and sell to us, I am sure it is original chargers and we sell for two years, none gave the feedback of they are fake

I'm slightly suspicious that it took her 11 minutes to respond when she had been responding quickly, but over all I think it confirms that they were not the place raided. DD on the other hand. :P

[Burning]

[quote=filtt]
It is 99% sure that all Xtar products bought from China are fakes. All other sellers than Xtar itself sells fake products because Xtar doesn’t have any retailers in China. This particular video is shooted in bestvaping.net raid.

wondering

[DENGOH]

@Burning

@filtt

It is 99% sure that all Xtar products bought from China are fakes. All other sellers than Xtar itself sells fake products because Xtar doesn’t have any retailers in China. This particular video is shooted in bestvaping.net raid.

+1

filtt, can you point out more information about this raid is indeed happen at bestvaping.net?
I find it hard to believe XTAR don’t have retailers in China, China is such a big market.

[Pinetreebbs]

@FlashPilot

@Pinetreebbs

@FlashPilot

What a brazen bunch of worthless lying hypocrites. Money talks when the correct hands are greased. The extremely limited enforcement in the sale of counterfeit products is mostly there for political appearances. Real enforcement is an impossible endeavor, given that a huge part of China/HK’s economy is based upon it. Many have proudly made it a way of life and most see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Their rules of trade ethics are clearly not in the same league as the rest of the free world. The large scale copy-cats have laughed at national/international copyright infringement laws for years and bragged publicly about their overwhelming successes. Copyright enforcement and the limited confiscation of fake goods? What a total crock of stinking pure BS.

So what is different about Chinese knock off knives?

I dont know, please do tell us.

Actually, nothing. They are also knock offs of Spyderco, Benchmade, Hinderer, Chris Reeve and others, not just the designs sometimes the names and logos.

[lipo99]

They have copy of China/HK manufactured products. Even skyray king has its china version as I saw in taobao this “If you want to buy international version of SRK please look elsewhere.

[veer (vēer)]

@millerman

anyone else notice?

No, until you mentioned it LOL :D!
Kreisler never posts regular images, theres always something “special” about them!

[Woody]

Interesting that a search for “Xtar” on bestvaping.net produces zero hits.

[That_Ninja_Guy]

@Wallbuys

for the XTAR,we will provide the evidence to show that  our goods are salable product,just wait for about days

What about the Nitecore i4s?

[NightCrawl]

@scaru

Just sent a message to a bestvaping representative, both to ask whether they had counterfeit goods and if they knew anything else.

Me too, but I havent received an answer yet.

XTAR on the other hand came back at me, answering my questions.

Short summary: the raid was at bestvaping/efest. They cant spread the info publicly because of chinese law. The fake chargers are of good quality and we shouldnt worry about it. If anyone is concerned, contact XTAR with your serial number (although I'm sure those can be faked, too).

XTAR doesnt have distributors in China, but in the rest of Asia. I take it that Hong Kong doesnt count as "China" for them.

XTAR is not interested in products of other brands, if we want to know anything about the Nitecore stuff, we should contact Nitecore.

So far the official info, now my 2 cents:

"Ouchyfoot" made a good comment on that in the other thread:

@Ouchyfoot

After reading the book “Poorly Made in China” I wouldn’t doubt that the “fake” Xtar chargers are really genuine Xtars. It is quite common for factories that are contracted to produce a companies product line to make extra runs for themselves without the companies knowledge. The factory can then sell them to unknowing suppliers for extra profit for themselves. So the fake Xtars could actually be “genuine” fakes.

So I think it is really Efest. Those chargers are probably internally identical to the genuine ones. Or they even are genuine but got there in a partially legal way.. ;)

Anyone wondered why Efest released their own BIO charger which looks almost like a twin to the XTAR WP2 if you remove the label?

-> Chinese manufacturers copy from other chinese manufacturers. XTAR tells us not to worry.

Dont worry, be happy.

But I have to say that I wish some things in China would finally change. Legal notices on the websites would come in handy in such situations, for example. Well.. :)

[UPz]

@Chicago X

It looks like they seized some lights as well.

Sad news, but probably a more common occurrence then we think.

ChiX, I think the lights are a gift from Xtar to the police dept, a “thank you” gift.
Regards!

[_the]

[quote=Woody] Interesting that a search for "Xtar" on bestvaping.net produces zero hits. [/quote]

[quote=NightCrawl] Short summary: the raid was at bestvaping/efest. [/quote]

I think that might explain why the XTAR 18700s I ordered 2013/1/11 were suddenly "out of stock" at 2013/1/15.

Asked them to send some Panasonics instead - let's hope those are legit.

[marcl]

@dchomak

@Muto

Got an Xtar WP2 II charger today from Wallbuys from the awesome Christmas sale and it has the user guide complete with optional accessories shown so I have to think it is legit.
I doubt the copycats would go to the expense of nicely printed manuals, but i could be wrong.
Anyway, I am charging a battery on it as we speak and no smoke has come out of it

Will check voltage when the battery finishes charging.
Later,
Keith

P.S. Clones make the world go round.

I can’t believe at what some of you guys look at to determine if something is legit or not. Printing or the shade of a label will not necessarily tell you what you want to know. If you want to get paranoid, you should know that the counterfeiting can go a lot deeper than you may care to think about. Chips, IC’s resisters, capacitors etc are all counterfeited. I have said it before and I will say it again.

Do you want to spend a lot of money and be cheated, or would rather spend a little, and be cheated.

It is an impossible situation in China, and until they are able to change the way they think and do business, their society will reap the results of all the short cuts they are using, trying to progress.

oops, gotta go, the wife brought home Chinese……………

Are you sure it’s Chinese?

[flash.light]

Man, if members/testers such as you might be doubting the legitimacy, we’re all screwed

@*the*

Asked them to send some Panasonics instead - let’s hope those are legit.

[verge]

@marcl

Are you sure it’s Chinese?

OMG! That too!

Its in a white box container with springy metal handle. Shrimp fried rice or Lo Mein is usually put in this container.
There are soy sauce, hot sauce and duck sauce plastic sachets in the brown paper bag.
A pair of wooden chopsticks still attached to each other in red paper sleeve.
At least two pieces of fortune cookies also in the bag.
Check the strip of paper in the fortune cookies it they have Chinese proverbs or good luck predictions on one side and lotto numbers on the other side.
A free soda in can if your order is more than $7.00.

I hope I didn’t miss anything…