Fake chargers (XTAR, Nitecore)!!!

[verge]

@filtt

It is 99% sure that all Xtar products bought from China are fakes. All other sellers than Xtar itself sells fake products because Xtar doesn’t have any retailers in China. This particular video is shooted in bestvaping.net raid.

“This particular video is shooted in bestvaping.net raid.”

filtt, how did you know that the video was a raid at bestvaping.net ?

I watched the video and can’t find any reference to bestvading.net, unless some chinese writing on the boxes says bestvading.net

At which part of the video did it refer that the raid took place at bestvading.net?

Xtar’s facebook did not expose the name of company raided at that video.

[flash.light]

Redacted? This isn’t a government FOIA request (just the facts, jus’ the facts)

@scaru

20:17:30

me

Also, any additional information in regards to who was involved and how to detect a counterfeit would be appreciated.

20:28:25

[Redacted]

all our charger are not fake, we buy the XTAR charger from XTAR company purchaser, and their purchaser just get from XTAR factory and sell to us, I am sure it is original chargers and we sell for two years, none gave the feedback of they are fake

Hi David,

Thank you for clarify the facts. Much appreciate for it.

[scaru]

@flash.light

Redacted? This isn’t a government FOIA request (just the facts, jus’ the facts)

@scaru

20:17:30

me

Also, any additional information in regards to who was involved and how to detect a counterfeit would be appreciated.

20:28:25

[Redacted]

all our charger are not fake, we buy the XTAR charger from XTAR company purchaser, and their purchaser just get from XTAR factory and sell to us, I am sure it is original chargers and we sell for two years, none gave the feedback of they are fake

Hi David, Thank you for clarify the facts. Much appreciate for it.

Sorry, I just felt I didn't need to post their name.

[feilox]

Yea kinda raised my eyebrow a few months back. When it was being sold for 19.99 when months back it was 29.99? Being bundled with flashlights & batteries even make it more tempting to buy them too.

[efestjone]

@NightCrawl

Jone, you know I like you as we have exchanged numerous PNs, but that post seems like someone from marketing made it.

Have you read the whole thread? Its pretty clear that the raid was at bestvaping (or some other seller with the same name?).

Also, you dont have any XTAR brand products in your shop anymore, just like AW which allegedly were fakes.

And what about the BIO charger looking exactly like the XTAR WP2?

You might have made mistakes in the past, be honest from now on and everything is fine. I wouldnt bother buying from you again, even assuming you sold fake XTAR and AW products.

Fake doesnt even mean that the products were copied, we all know how chinese business works. Manufacturers take contracts which are not profitable for them and afterwards sell the same product with less cost in higher quantities. So maybe those were genuine chargers and batteries but the owner of the name didnt want you to sell them.

If you buy 500pcs of something from China, they will print whatever name and logo you want on it.

thank you Simon, I think there is something you misunderstanding.

First, we want to declare that we do not made any mistake in the past and won’t make any mistake in future too.

Second, we never ever sold any AW batteries. None of one piece. One of our customer suggested us to post the AW batteries picture on our website as the marketing tools, for promote our own products. And we even refused many customers to making the fake AW batteries.

Third, the BIO charger we have patent, and many other approval, also the engineer designed it under the Chinese lawyer verified. Is not just that sample to print whatever the name and paste it on it. There are many Chinese factory maybe will do like that, but we never do and even won’t do like that.

I’m really appreciate your kindly words, but the truth is the truth, we shouldn’t ignore it.

[efestjone]

@filtt

@efestjone

@scaru

Just got a reply from my contact with bestvaping, here a transcript is.

20:17:30

me

Also, any additional information in regards to who was involved and how to detect a counterfeit would be appreciated.

20:28:25

[Redacted]

all our charger are not fake, we buy the XTAR charger from XTAR company purchaser, and their purchaser just get from XTAR factory and sell to us, I am sure it is original chargers and we sell for two years, none gave the feedback of they are fake

I’m slightly suspicious that it took her 11 minutes to respond when she had been responding quickly, but over all I think it confirms that they were not the place raided. DD on the other hand.

Hi David,

Thank you for clarify the facts. Much appreciate for it.

What on earth this clarifies? Raid took place at bestvaping, that´s sure.

Hi filtt,

We appreciate for your kindly hard works for to prove raid at bestvaping. lolz, though the vedio speaking in Chinese but never mentioned any bestvaping relative else, even no efest batteries or relative else. How do you know it’s bestvaping and why anxious to prove it bestvaping? Those vedios happened in everywhere of the world every day. Where showed bestvaping? How do you sure it? Hmm, looks like you are the from the Xtar?

[Werner]

I hate bestvaping.
They sell fakes and are still not honest when we got this information direct from xtar. Just a bit blabla…
I am sure they would never admit even if they were devil themself.

Still waiting on my invoice for my order…since some month. I don’t trust them and I don’t like them.

[NightCrawl]

I'm still waiting to see someone who actually received any fake product from Efest. ;)

After some messages with Xtar and Efest representatives, I think all of this is far less an issue that we all thought. I'll shed some light on that later.

[antonkochubey]

@kreisler

i dont buy xtar other than battery

efest shipping charges kills the deal

my english sometimes as bad as native chinese speakers

sorry for inconvenience and misunderstanding simon

Simon? Did you… went back from the future? :o

[daveam]

I just received a large order from powerwholesale (same as bestvaping) including 2 Xtar MP2 chargers and 2 SysMax/NiteCore Intellicharger i4 V2 chargers and they look identical to and charge exactly the same as the ones I had purchased from a trusted source.

I found getting the order sorted out with them a bit more time consuming than some of the other sellers (Tmart, Wallbuys, Fasttech…) but I found their communication throughout was prompt and customer focused. Their pricing is great (wholesale) so shipping charges (EMS, DHL, FedEx) can seem high, but for a large order I’d recommend them based on my personal experience.

[verge]

@NightCrawl

I’m still waiting to see someone who actually received any fake product from Efest.

After some messages with Xtar and Efest representatives, I think all of this is far less an issue that we all thought. I’ll shed some light on that later.

Was that office in the video, with battery chargers of different brands, a victim of friendly fire?

After all the drama of that raid, it was all much ado about nothing (as Shakespeare would have said it)?

[flash.light]

I’m sorry scaru… that’s cool. I just thought it was like a bunch of paragraphs or stuff… hey, I guess that would’ve been cool too.

Thanks for the info you posted!

@scaru

@flash.light

Redacted? This isn’t a government FOIA request (just the facts, jus’ the facts)

@scaru

20:17:30

me

Also, any additional information in regards to who was involved and how to detect a counterfeit would be appreciated.

20:28:25

[Redacted]

all our charger are not fake, we buy the XTAR charger from XTAR company purchaser, and their purchaser just get from XTAR factory and sell to us, I am sure it is original chargers and we sell for two years, none gave the feedback of they are fake

Hi David, Thank you for clarify the facts. Much appreciate for it.

Sorry, I just felt I didn’t need to post their name.

[Efest]

Hey Woody,

I really feel sorry about this problem,I emailed to sb56637 almost 1 month ago to explain the reason( why we end the adverstizing on BLF ). I am sure there is not any relationship with the it.

About your questions: why this company traded under so many names: since each site need the different name, and our company was registered by official in china and Hongkong, and we put products on B2B website, we need some certifications here and there.

We are here always, and we will take duties for every our client. Do not be afraid, we never want to cheat others, that is our BLF adverstizing said: we will accept any suggestions ( bad and good ),we will improve under your feedbacks, and hope you will support to us all the time.

[Efest]

@Werner

I hate bestvaping.
They sell fakes and are still not honest when we got this information direct from xtar. Just a bit blabla…
I am sure they would never admit even if they were devil themself.

Still waiting on my invoice for my order…since some month. I don’t trust them and I don’t like them.

Hey Werner,

I am sorry If bestvaping gave you bad impression.

As your know,we would like to check the best shipping cost to you ( and also we need time conmunicate and confirm with you ) ,that is why we are slowly, Sheer already sent the tracking number to you on Jan.17th, I think you will get it soon with good shipping cost.

[Efest]

@Woody

I doubt if Xtar would take too much interest in fake Nitecore, or any other products they didn’t own.

I agree with Kreisler - if it is shown that Bestvaping (aka Efest, aka Powerwholesale, aka ShenZhen E-Young Technology, etc) are involved, we should stop doing business with them.

Funny, but I remember Boaz asking some time ago why this company traded under so many names. Perhaps we have a hint now why. Not that I am jumping the gun or anything, you understand.

Oh, and has Efest’s advertising ended on BLF?

Hey Woody,

I really feel sorry about this problem,I emailed to sb56637 almost 1 month ago to explain the reason( why we end the adverstizing on BLF ). I am sure there is not any relationship with the it.

About your questions: why this company traded under so many names: since each site need the different name, and our company was registered by official in china and Hongkong, and we put products on B2B website, we need some certifications here and there.

We are here always, and we will take duties for every our client. Do not be afraid, we never want to cheat others, that is our BLF adverstizing said: we will accept any suggestions ( bad and good ),we will improve under your feedbacks, and hope you will support to us all the time.

[MonzReyes]

Bestvaping is not selling Fake Xtar chargers. How many times have I bought from them? MANY TIMES. None of my customers ever of their xtar wp2 sp2 wp6 as being defective or fake. Ive bought nitecore from them too. If you want to find out for yourself order an xtar WP2 from Bestvaping or Manafont then buy one frm FStoplights. Check if there are any differences.

[filtt]

You took the words out of my mouth, MonzReyes. Bestvaping, efest, powerwholesale, whatsoever doesn’t sell fake Xtar chargers. It doesn’t sell any Xtar products atm.

In the past they sold fake Xtar chargers.

[Boaz]

@daveam

I just received a large order from powerwholesale (same as bestvaping) including 2 Xtar MP2 chargers and 2 SysMax/NiteCore Intellicharger i4 V2 chargers and they look identical to and charge exactly the same as the ones I had purchased from a trusted source. I found getting the order sorted out with them a bit more time consuming than some of the other sellers (Tmart, Wallbuys, Fasttech…) but I found their communication throughout was prompt and customer focused. Their pricing is great (wholesale) so shipping charges (EMS, DHL, FedEx) can seem high, but for a large order I’d recommend them based on my personal experience.

They are a pretty good company that has delivered quality batteries to hundreds of members here on BLF.

My experiance is the same as yours ..shipping is a bit slow at about 28 days but prices were right and the products were of good quality ..I would do business with them again and reccommend them too a friend .

Why has BLF turned into a big witch hunt ??

Time to quit the drama club

[verge]

I think we are experiencing a witch hunt in the forum because of that police raid video and somebody alleged the police raid was conducted at bestvaping.net office.

@filtt

This particular video is shooted in bestvaping.net raid.

and the source of this information was;

@filtt

From a very truthful source at Hongkong.

and somebody alleged that vestvaping;

@filtt

In the past they sold fake Xtar chargers.

In the latest allegation against bestvaping.net, the source of information is….?

[BIGWOOD]

@verge

I think we are experiencing a witch hunt in the forum because of that police raid video and somebody alleged the police raid was conducted at bestvaping.net office.

@filtt

This particular video is shooted in bestvaping.net raid.

and the source of this information was;

@filtt

From a very truthful source at Hongkong.

and somebody alleged that vestvaping;

@filtt

In the past they sold fake Xtar chargers.

In the latest allegation against bestvaping.net, the source of information is….?

Seems like a lot of free publicity for Xtar. Just saying…