Fake chargers (XTAR, Nitecore)!!!

Was that office in the video, with battery chargers of different brands, a victim of friendly fire?

After all the drama of that raid, it was all much ado about nothing (as Shakespeare would have said it)?

I’m sorry scaru… that’s cool. I just thought it was like a bunch of paragraphs or stuff… hey, I guess that would’ve been cool too.

Thanks for the info you posted! :slight_smile:

Hey Woody,

I really feel sorry about this problem,I emailed to sb56637 almost 1 month ago to explain the reason( why we end the adverstizing on BLF ). I am sure there is not any relationship with the it.

About your questions: why this company traded under so many names: since each site need the different name, and our company was registered by official in china and Hongkong, and we put products on B2B website, we need some certifications here and there.

We are here always, and we will take duties for every our client. Do not be afraid, we never want to cheat others, that is our BLF adverstizing said: we will accept any suggestions ( bad and good ),we will improve under your feedbacks, and hope you will support to us all the time.

Hey Werner,

I am sorry If bestvaping gave you bad impression.

As your know,we would like to check the best shipping cost to you ( and also we need time conmunicate and confirm with you ) ,that is why we are slowly, Sheer already sent the tracking number to you on Jan.17th, I think you will get it soon with good shipping cost.

Hey Woody,

I really feel sorry about this problem,I emailed to sb56637 almost 1 month ago to explain the reason( why we end the adverstizing on BLF ). I am sure there is not any relationship with the it.

About your questions: why this company traded under so many names: since each site need the different name, and our company was registered by official in china and Hongkong, and we put products on B2B website, we need some certifications here and there.

We are here always, and we will take duties for every our client. Do not be afraid, we never want to cheat others, that is our BLF adverstizing said: we will accept any suggestions ( bad and good ),we will improve under your feedbacks, and hope you will support to us all the time.

Bestvaping is not selling Fake Xtar chargers. How many times have I bought from them? MANY TIMES. None of my customers ever of their xtar wp2 sp2 wp6 as being defective or fake. Ive bought nitecore from them too. If you want to find out for yourself order an xtar WP2 from Bestvaping or Manafont then buy one frm FStoplights. Check if there are any differences.

You took the words out of my mouth, MonzReyes. Bestvaping, efest, powerwholesale, whatsoever doesn’t sell fake Xtar chargers. It doesn’t sell any Xtar products atm.

In the past they sold fake Xtar chargers.

They are a pretty good company that has delivered quality batteries to hundreds of members here on BLF.

My experiance is the same as yours ..shipping is a bit slow at about 28 days but prices were right and the products were of good quality ..I would do business with them again and reccommend them too a friend .

Why has BLF turned into a big witch hunt ??

Time to quit the drama club

I think we are experiencing a witch hunt in the forum because of that police raid video and somebody alleged the police raid was conducted at bestvaping.net office.

and the source of this information was;

and somebody alleged that vestvaping;

In the latest allegation against bestvaping.net, the source of information is….?

Seems like a lot of free publicity for Xtar. Just saying…

@antonkochubey: Simon is my real name which kreisler - who deleted his post^^ - knows. :)

Now about all that stuff with fake Xtar chargers.. I have exchanged several messages with both Xtar and Efest (aka bestvaping, bestinone, powerwholesale) representatives and I got very different answers.

So the following is based upon the facts I got.

I dont know if that video was shot at bestvaping. Honestly, no idea who is telling the truth right now. Do I think it is possible that it was shot at bestvaping? Yes, but even if it was, I dont think its an issue.

In my opinion, Efest didnt sell any fake charger in the past. Why do I think that?

Xtar HAD distributors in China. They just cancelled their contracts with most of them, so friendly fire as someone called it earlier is possible. How could you possibly control where hundreds/thousands of chargers eventually show up? Maybe Xtar sold them to Efest (or the company in question) directly but wanted to stop that very quick? Maybe some of the resellers made better business than Xtar and they didnt like it?

Xtar didnt warn about fake chargers, they even say they are not dangerous.

About the low price thing.. I bought mine during a special sale about 30% under MSRP. And its genuine. What does that tell us? Some distributors give up a part of their earning on one product to promote their shop. Nothing more, nothing less.

Nitecore didnt investigate, although there are Nitecore chargers in the video. Nitecore is a competitor of Xtar. Would a company knowingly sell fake Xtar chargers but genuine ones from Nitecore?

Business in China works a little different than in the western world. A former friend can be your worst enemy the next day. Stealing business partners is very common.

As you see, there are more possible scenarios than I have fingers. In the end, we will NEVER know the truth. Probably Xtar and Efest will know it, but I'm not even sure about that. If there even is an investigation by lawyers, it will soon end because they wont find anyone responsible. I mean, suing someone in China for copyright infringement is ridiculous.

Personal note: I still trust Efest and Xtar and I would buy from both without hesitation. So, what is our benefit from all these videos, posts, bashing, complaining, complaining about people who complain and so on? Well, now we know that you cant compare chinese companies to western ones. It just works differently there. A lot of that is somewhere between morally questionable and plain wrong.

But lets be honest: we are insignificant to most chinese manufacturers. And its great that they still care about us.

Live long and prosper!

I ordered a nitecore intellecharger from ebay seller Harris Outdoors last month. It took 19 days to get to me. Supposed to be a us seller.
You fellas think maybe i got a fake?

Get yours and run it by Nitecore.

Suspicious about them… I don’t know but they’ve been running a free shipping special on Amazon with a “Nitecore EC1 ULTIMATE PACKAGE! INCLUDES i2 INTELLICHARGER AND 2 X 16340 PROTECTED BATTERIES” (trustfire cells, not nitecore) for $55 and that’s cheaper than buying them all at fasttech! (Could just be a loss-leader for nitecore, though)

But 19 days and they write in their ad “ALL PRODUCTS ARE SHIPPED FROM OLD SAYBROOK, CT. USA!” Isn’t that where Battery Junction is from? Same Company???

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PHEW! Looks like yours is the real deal! There have been problems with fake Chinese food before and to my knowledge the only way to tell is the fortune cookies…
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I don't think you even know what Chinese food is. That's like calling chimichangas 'Mexican food'.

Anyway, fake crap is gonna turn up everywhere, sometimes more obvious than others, it's how the world is, has been and always will be in such a globally materialistic society...now where was that special on the biggest baddest flashlight there is?

Don’t worry so much. Even XTAR acknowledged they are good high quality fakes and not dangerous. Seldom have original brand praise their fakes. So these must be good.

Did Xtar give some kind of confirmation that the raid was at bestvaping? For me, it is an issue because that will be part of my consideration if I can trust bestvaping’s or Xtar’s integrity with products they sell. I hope Xtar doesn’t toy with an idea that they can bait consumers with a vague news and then manipulate their buying behavior.

Were there arrests and charges filed after the raid?

If Xtar wanted that raid to be a message to those allegedly making fake Xtar product, they should have maximized media exposure of that raid. Why can’t I find any legitimate news report link of that raid?

China might have different way of conducting business but I am not in China and Xtar is aware that it is also selling products outside of China. I wanted assurance that the product I buy is not a fake.

So far, Xtar is being quiet while bestvading is defending itself from a unsubstantiated (as of now) accusation here.

Xtar’s integrity to honor done deals will also reflect on how it would treat me with their products and warrantees.

If I can’t trust them, I won’t buy from them.

How do you know if your Chinese food is the real deal aside from being cooked by a Chinese cook in a Chinese restaurant or Chinese Take Out store?

What we buy is Americanized Chinese food. They won’t eat it, just cook it. There for our Chinese food is fake Chinese food.

Ya, you need to eat real Chinese foods outside USA or Europe. China or south east asia or Taiwan is the place to get them.
And better is have local friends to bring you to nice restaurants. Not all foods are delicious.

Yeah... I think american cats are much tougher .

No. Boaz…. NOOOOOOOO :bigsmile: