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Lanterns?

Are there any lanterns that are budget yet good? I assume hand crank is junk. Probably none that take 18650’s or 14500’s. So am I left with regular batteries or ones with built in batteries? How about lanterns that go on top of flashlights or something like that?

I’m a junky, I mod lights so I can sell lights so I can buy more light to mod so I can sell lights to buy more lights to mod.

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The Solarforce L2 series have a lantern set that fits on. Don't know how good it is, but that's all that comes to mind so far.

Link to lantern thingy.

Best bet other than that could be a those silicone-wand pop on diffuser.

Link to diffuser for L2 series.

But they're a lot cheaper on FastTech here.

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Oh, and you could always seriously mod one of those camping lanterns!

Lots of space to work with!

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Ramblings wrote:
Best bet other than that could be a those silicone-wand pop on diffuser.

Link to diffuser for L2 series.


My experience with diffuser, lantern and wand attachment has led me to believe that that will perform the best by far.  I should have figured that it would be since virtually every household light bulb, be it incandescentfluorescent or LED has frosted glass or plastic.  You might already have something you can use as a wand like a white film canister, or Airborne container, or a white pill bottle.

Floodier flashlights work better with wands.  I'd be far more into floody flashlights if I could get long wands with them.

The low mode should be lower.

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Thanks guys I’ll try that.

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Are you in the US? I really like my 4AA Coleman collapsible lantern after doing the glass frosting mod posted over at CPF. Not huge output, but packs away small for camping trips. See more info and links I posted in this thread

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I had need of that sort of light last summer. I wrapped a sheet of ordinary white paper around the head of a conventional 1-18650 light for a ‘snoot’, snapped it in place with an elastic band, and simply stood it on its tail. Between the side light and considerable ceiling bounce, it worked perfectly. 100 lumens was adequate to fill a 200 sq. ft. room with adequate light to cook, eat and function normally.
Frankly, most lanterns I’ve seen force their light out to the sides with a reflective cone and glare quite badly if you look in their direction.

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thanks again for the suggestions. I’ll be checking them all out.

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I’ve been thinking about getting another, this folding one (4xAA) direct from the Yezl company for under $15 shipped from China:

I’ll have to rethink this glare thing though.

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Frankly, most lanterns I’ve seen force their light out to the sides with a reflective cone and glare quite badly if you look in their direction.

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… using a decent flashlight of your choice.

- 4x brighter (w/1×14500)
- 2x as efficient with batts
- 5x smaller, lighter, more versatile
- 24/7 EDC-able

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That’s the Coleman collapsible lantern that you can get at Walmart (in the camping section) for about $20. Target sells them too.

I have several of them for emergencies. What I did was wrap the entire thing in electrical tape until just the window is exposed; spray with 2-3 light coats of Krylon Matte Varnish… and viola! No more glare.

The light loss is minimal, contrary to how this dark, crummy photo might suggest (that I took with my cell phone).

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I have one of these on order
Takes a 18650 and is cheap.

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I am curious about this as well. Has anyone used both a wand type diffuser and the solar force or fenix lantern attachment? I would like to buy one of them for a camping trip but am unsure as to which one.

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transposon wrote:
I am curious about this as well. Has anyone used both a wand type diffuser and the solar force or fenix lantern attachment? I would like to buy one of them for a camping trip but am unsure as to which one.

 

Yes, and that's why I'm saying the lantern attachment is rubbish compared to a wand diffuser.

The low mode should be lower.

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Solarforce lantern is great. I use it all the time I have a 3 mode xmlu2 for it and the low mode is nice and bright and lights up a 400sq/f room in my basement no problem. For camping etc it would be great and looks cool.

A wand diffuser is cheap and solarforce sells them as well. I havent tried them because I wanted a lantern not a hollow plastic tube, regardless of its function its not a “lantern”.

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This solarforce lantern looks nice.

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The solarforce lantern in the link posted above.

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AnneeLennox wrote:
I've been thinking about getting another, this folding one (4xAA) "direct from the Yezl company":http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/3W-CAMPING-LIGHT-TENT-LIGHT-PORT... for under $15 shipped from China: !{width:50%}http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/745/102/477/477102745_941.jpg! !{width:50%}http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/748/102/477/477102748_661.jpg! !{width:50%}http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/757/102/477/477102757_276.jpg! !{width:50%}http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/767/102/477/477102767_712.jpg! I'll have to rethink this glare thing though.
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Frankly, most lanterns I've seen force their light out to the sides with a reflective cone and glare quite badly if you look in their direction.
___ A.L.

Looks identical to the Coleman Pack Away collapsible I mentioned. Good find. Yes, the glass frosting spray does an amazing job!

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I bought 2 of the Solarforce lanterns a couple of weeks ago, not impressed at all but I was using XP-G R5 dropin, the XM-L may be better. Will sell mine if you need it quick.

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I do alot of car, primitive backwoods, canoe, boy scout and remote car camping…

I haven’t found a really good lantern yet. I hate coleman gas/propane lanterns. Often they just don’t fit – backpack or canoe/kayak camping. The RayOVacs are my favorite battery lantern at this point. There is a high output Coleman that I will buy when I can find it on sale. Heard good things about it.

For any/all car camping and home emergencies* I use a 12v LED system. Works like a charm. Lasts forever.

For all other uses, I have a few of the Solarforce lanterns – I think they are good. Since I normally bring my SF lights when I go, I save on some extra gear, batteries, etc.
You can hang them anywhere or put them into the stands. Choice of output levels and after a few years, I can’t complain, good quality, durable, well thought out, decent price. I also have a Fenix wand, its fine but the light doesn’t have the output of any of my SF units. I don’t have the SF wand, keep forgetting.

I have been hoping that some company would realize the need and bring out a 26650 or 18650 XML type lantern – think that would solve most of the problems with the units that are out there now – they are just too weak. Some of them are pretty slick and useful to use though, like the RayOVac and the Black Diamond units.

*3 weeks of storm outages in 13 months! No gas generator!!!

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I have seen a nice lantern style lamp powered with one D cell at countycomm.
http://www.countycomm.com/strobetll.html

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I also have a Fenix wand, its fine but the light doesn't have the output of any of my SF units. I don't have the SF wand, keep forgetting.


I have been hoping that some company would realize the need and bring out a 26650 or 18650 XML type lantern - think that would solve most of the problems with the units that are out there now - they are just too weak. Some of them are pretty slick and useful to use though, like the RayOVac and the Black Diamond units. *3 weeks of storm outages in 13 months! No gas generator!!!

I suppose that's why I love my wand.  I have it on a 460 lumen flashlight, so it's nice and bright.  The way it disperses light is what has me sold; it's like what you'd expect out of a soft white incandescent light bulb.  I wish I had it a couple years ago when I spent a couple months in the Sierras doing trail maintenance.  All I had was the lantern and diffuser attachments for my Fenix, and it wasn't nice at all.  The same light with a wand is so much better, especially for reading maps on my own or in a group.

 

I'm sure the type of wand can make a big difference.  The Xeno wand has a thicker plastic that seems to help disperse the light.  Some people have recommended using a film canister, and I didn't have one, so I tried using an Airborne canister with a different flashlight. The output isn't as nice.  That could be because the canister plastic isn't well suited to use as a lantern, or because the flashlight is too throwy and it certainly has fewer lumens, or maybe it's because I haven't wiped the labeling off the canister.

 

I absolutely agree with you about a 26650 version.  I'd love a wand for my BLF A8.  There are some wands out there, and I'd love it if they came in more sizes.  They're cheap enough that I'd get one for all my lights, even my bike lights. Smile  I think a wand wouldn't be good on a throwy light though, as it probably wouldn't get enough light on the sides of the wand.

The low mode should be lower.

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I really like the two I show in this thread. The Cyba-Lite is a bit heavy with 3 D-cells but the build quality, output and even light profile makes it a winner in my book.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/13420

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Volk wrote:
I really like the two I show in this thread. The Cyba-Lite is a bit heavy with 3 D-cells but the build quality, output and even light profile makes it a winner in my book.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/13420

That is a nice mod. That is certainly the RayOVac shell. I will have to look for that online. What are you getting for run time? You are using alkaline or rechargeables? Have you run into any heat issues?

What sort of driver are you running (probably in your thread?)?

Any further mod plans?

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__“I wish I had it a couple years ago when I spent a couple months in the Sierras doing trail maintenance.  All I had was the lantern and diffuser attachments for my Fenix, and it wasn’t nice at all. “_

Funny – Spending two+ weeks in a river ecanyon one fall (that lost light early in the evening) in the Sierra NF was why I gave up my smaller AA lights and lanterns…

There are so many opportunities with the HO emitters that weren’t there even two years ago.

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Werner wrote:
I have seen a nice lantern style lamp powered with one D cell at countycomm. http://www.countycomm.com/strobetll.html

Neat little design and I was interested at first. Durable and 1 D cell could be awesome. XR-E seems like a bad emitter choice though. It’s less efficient, higher Vf makes the extra boost harder on the cell, and it’s throwiness is actually counterproductive. As to the claimed 150 lumens for up to 100 hours on 1 D cell boosting… suuuurrrreeee it does…

At 44.50 it’s an expensive mod host. Neat though. Thanks for sharing.

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18sixfifty wrote:
Are there any lanterns that are budget yet good? I assume hand crank is junk. Probably none that take 18650’s or 14500’s. So am I left with regular batteries or ones with built in batteries? How about lanterns that go on top of flashlights or something like that?

I started to ask in the subject header – what are you looking to do with this? Home blackouts, other emergencies, camping, backpacking, etc?

Having gone through 3 weeks of no power in the last year, I have had plenty of time to try out lots of choices.

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That is a nice mod. That is certainly the RayOVac shell. I will have to look for that online. What are you getting for run time? You are using alkaline or rechargeables? Have you run into any heat issues?

What sort of driver are you running (probably in your thread?)?

Any further mod plans?

Yep, rebranded RayOVac. I’ve even seen one with the name Varta. Either was it’s a good, solid, host to start with.
At the moment I’m running it on the first set of alkalines so I can’t tell you how much runtime I get out of it. But I’ve owned it for about 2 years and used it during a couple of blackouts and as an extra lightsource when we redid the kitchen, so it has seen some good use. When the alkalines die though I’m going to use 6 AA batteries instead (GP Recyko), should make it a bit lighter.

At the moment all I’ve done to it is an emitter swap but I’m planing to replace that emitter with REALLY warm XPG and a 3-mode 7135 driver. By doing this I hope I get a good general mode and that the high mode should work more as a turbo mode.
The reason I’m going for yet another, warmer, emitter is that the one I use looks cooler in the lantern then it does in my C8 style flashlight with the same emitter. No clue why though since the led doesn’t overheat, I guess there is something about perceived warmth when in comes to lanterns compared to flashlights. So I’m going to change it to an 8A emitter, about 2800K.

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I am getting itchy fingers, thought I was DONE w orders for this month (Chinese New Years and all)…

As far as the CRI/perceived color – could that be whatever properties of the small frosted dome and the outer frosted cover? Alone or in combination?

Still, sounds like a good upgrade to do.

I am currently playing w the 12v bulbs in my lanterns (goal zero), clip on fixtures and regular socket fixtures. What looks good – as your noted – isn’t necessarily the hot ticket inside (or outside).

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Yeah, it might be as you say that the frosted dome is the culprit. I think I’m going to disassemble the lantern and try it without the dome, not tonight though. Smile

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Tumbleweed48 wrote:
Frankly, most lanterns I’ve seen force their light out to the sides with a reflective cone and glare quite badly if you look in their direction.
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Looks identical to the Coleman Pack Away collapsible I mentioned. Good find. Yes, the glass frosting spray does an amazing job!

-Garry

Didn’t order the Yezl yet so I’ll check out and see if I can if I can locate the coleman. Thanks garrybunk

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