Huge List of Ceiling Bounce Readings (Every mode from every flashlight in my collection!!!)

Here is a list of ceiling bounce readings from all of my current flashlights. If you have any questions or if you notice an error, let me know.

  • All tests were done with fully charged batteries (4.19-4.21v) or (+1.5v for AA/AAA).
  • All tests were done with the reflector 53"-54" from the ceiling, in the same location, the same distance from the meter, and aimed in the same spot.
  • All tests were done starting on the lowest mode and ending on the highest, allowing adequate cool-down between readings.
  • All readings were taken 2-3 seconds after the light was turned on.

  • 18650 = TrustFire 3000mah "Flame" Protected
  • 14500= TrustFire 900mah "Flame" Protected
  • AA= Duracell "Duralock" Alkaline
  • AAA= Sanyo Eneloop (3rd Gen) NiMh




Flashlight:

Mode Lux Reading
Flooders
Brinyte B40S (XM-L U2) 3x18650 Hi 216
Med 83
Low 22
ThruNite TN30 (XM-L2 U2) 3x18650 6 190
5 115
4 67
3 26
2 4
1 0
DRY (XM-L T6 NW) 3x18650 Turbo 175
Hi 104
Med 44
Low 11
ThruNite TN30 (XM-L U2) 3x18650 6 172
5 106
4 61
3 24
2 3
1 0
TrustFire TR-J12 (XM-L T6) 3x18650 Hi 166
Med 93
Low 14
UltraFire UF-T70 (XM-L T6) 3x18650 Hi 142
Low 22
SkyRay King (XM-L T6 NW) 4x18650 Hi 140
*CNQualityGoods w/ old looking driver* Low 15
SkyRay King (XM-L T6 NW) 4x18650 Hi 120
*CNQualityGoods w/ old looking driver* Low 14
SkyRay King (XM-L T6) 4x18650 Hi 115
*Lightmalls w/ old looking driver* Low 11
TrustFire TR-3T6 (XM-L T6) 2x18650 Hi 97
Med 50
Low 10


Throwers

BTU Shocker (T6 NW) 3x18650 Turbo 140
Hi 112
Med 53
Low 4
ThruNite TN31 (XM-L2 U2) 3x18650 6 85
5 53
4 31
3 12
2 3
1 0
ThruNite TN31 (XM-L U2) 3x18650 6 70
5 44
4 26
3 11
2 2
1 0
UltraFire HD2010 (XM-L T6) 1x26650 Hi 56
Med 19
Low 3
FandyFire STL-V6 (XM-L T6) 2x18650 Hi 52
Low 6
FandyFire STL-V6 (XM-L T6) 2x18650 Hi 49
Low 5
SmallSun ZY-T08 (XM-L T6) 2x18650 Hi 40
Med 20
Low 10


Medium Size

UltraFire C8 (XM-L T6) 1x18650 Hi 60
Med 25
Low 3
UniqueFire C108 (XM-L T6) 1x18650 Hi 55
Med 35
Low 11
UltraFire UF-980L (XM-L T6) 1x18650 Hi 55
*Manafont 3.8amps* Med 19
Low 4


P60

SolarForce L2P (XM-L T6) 1x18650 Hi 50
*Manfont/Ultrafire w/ OP Reflector* Med 16
Low 3
UltraFire 501B (XM-L T6) 1x18650 Hi 42
Low 12
UltraFire 504B (XM-L T6) 1x18650 Hi 42
Med 21
Low 2
SolarForce L2P (XM-L T6 NW) 1x18650 Hi 40
*intl-outdoor 2.5amp w/ OP Reflector* Med 16
Low 5
UltraFire 501B (XR-G R5) 1x18650 Hi 21
SureFire G2 (SSC P4) 2xCR132 Hi 5


Small Size

UltraFire UF-T50 (XM-L T6) 1x18650 Hi 40
UltraFire HD2011 (XM-L T6) 1x18650 Hi 48
Med 24
Low 4
UltraFire UF-2100 (XM-L T6) 1x18650 Hi 40
Med 22
Low 5
UltraFire G10 (XR-E Q5) 1x14500 Hi 29
UltraFire G10 (XR-E Q5) 1xAA Hi 7.2
UltraFire U20S (XM-L T6) 1x14500 Hi 23
UltraFire U20S (XM-L T6) 1xAA Hi 6.7
UltraFire C3 (XR-E Q5) 1x14500 Hi 19
UltraFire C3 (XR-E Q5) 1xAA Hi 6.2


"Ti" Size

ThruNite Ti2 (XP-G2) 1xEneloop AAA Hi 5.2
ThruNite Ti (XP-E R4) 1xEneloop AAA Hi 4.2
ThruNite Ti (XP-E R4) 1xEneloop AAA Hi 3.9


Zoomies

Sipik SK98 (XM-L T6) 1x18650 Hi 52
Low 12
LIE REN LC-01 (XM-L T6) 1x18650 Hi 30
Med 10
Low 4
NEW C55 (XR-E Q5) 1x18650 Hi 17
Low 3
Tank007 TK736 (XR-E Q5) 1x18650 Hi 14
Med 4
Low 1
TomTop SK68 Clone (XR-E Q5) 1x14500 Hi 18
TomTop SK68 Clone (XR-E Q5) 1xAA Hi 6.8
TomTop SK68 Clone (XR-E Q5) 1x14500 Hi 16.5
TomTop SK68 Clone (XR-E Q5) 1xAA Hi 5.9

Hmm... Were these all taken in the same space? I'll try to calculate a conversion factor for them, thanks for the hard work!

Thanks. :)

Yup, almost as exact as it can get. I am very picky and tried to eliminated every single variable.

Ok, so going off of a couple different lights that I was able to find output data on; I got an approximate conversion factor of 16.74. So just take a lux reading and multiply by 16.74. This seems to work for the most part assuming we are talking about decently bright lights, a few outliers though.



Nice work, I will update the above table with aprox. lumens tomorrow. (Too many numbers for one night already)

thanks for this. alot of good data here, and boy do you have a lot of lights.

I love stuff like this. For sure do the conversion to lumens. I was doing x15 in my head but I think Scaru got it right :slight_smile:

Some surprises in there to me, will enjoy looking at the listing a second time when you post lumens. Nice collection of lights too!

Next comment - were you surprised by any of the results, thinking one was outputting a whole lot more, etc?

Nice list! Thanks for putting in the time to do this.

Thanks for doing all that. A really nice reference point for comparisons.

:slight_smile:


I saw a lot of beams yesterday but none of them really made me question the readings. I think the CW readings might be a little higher than they should be and the NW ones a little lower than what they should be. However, it might just be my eyes playing tricks on me. I think the readings are fairly close. If they are off, it isn't by very much.


My surprises:
B40S= Holy cow it can put out a lot of light

TN30 XM-L2= What a versatile light! 3180 lumens all the way down to moonlight. An amazing light that will not be leaving my collection for a very long time.

DRY= Even though feature wise I don't like this flashlight it sure is bright. It placed 3rd amongst some really bright lights! I just hate having strobe between Hi and Turbo.

Sky Ray King= Not sure why there is such a huge variation between lights here. They are all XM-L T6 (my signature is wrong, the two from CNQualitygoods are definitely both NW T6). The Lightmalls ones has had about 2 sets of batteries through it so I'm not sure if that is affecting it's performance or maybe it's not an authentic one. The cnquality ones also have quite a spread too. The six-month old (120lux) one has had one set of batteries thought it and the (140lux) one is new. Once again maybe the emitters are getting too hot?


BTU Shocker= A great mix of flood and throw. I just wish it was 4x18650 and had a sideswitch.

TN31 XM-L2= Another ridiculous light, the throw is amazing and I can never get enough of moonlight mode.

HD2010= This light is a diamond in the rough for sure. It out-throws both of my STL-V6s. The last one I bought from the same place (easylightbuy) isn't nearly the same light. So when you hear me talk about a "good" HD2010, this is what I mean.

ZY-T08= At only 670 lumens this light has some serious potential. It would be a great light if it is bumped up into the 900+ lumen range.


UltraFire C8= This is another diamond in the rough. It performs like a U2 or U3 but I bought it over a year ago so I am pretty sure it is a legit T6.

UltraFire 980L= It doesn't seem to be performing as well as it should. I really think it is an authentic one because I bought it a while ago after reading Foy's review and from Manafont. I think my batteries might be limiting this light?


SolarForce L2P w/ intl-outdoor NW= I think this light should be at about 700lumens. This is really the one reading that stands out to me as being low. It is a very nice drop-in with an awesome tint and 2.5amps is just about right for a P60 in my opinion.

SureFire G2= Hah, can you believe this light started it all?!? I used to think this light was bright...


HD2011= I really like this light for an EDC. On high (more like turbo) I wrap my hand around the head. I typically use it on medium though because 400 lumens is usually plenty.

UltraFire G10= This light is a monster on a 14500 battery. I'm not sure how long it will last but man is it bright.

UltraFire U20S- This is my EDC light 75% of the time. There is very little heat sag; it maintained its lux reading way longer than the rest of the AA lights.


Ti2= This might become my new EDC because it is so small and extremely bright for it's size.

Ti= I'm not sure why there is a variation here between lights. They are both brand new.


SK98= This light has literally no heat transfer so it probably wouldn't last long if you plan to use it for long periods. However, it is my favorite "wall of light" flashlight that I own. I mean the wide, bright beam is jaw dropping.

Tank TK736= This is a great light with amazing build quality. I just wish it was brighter. I still think if someone is looking for a nice zoomie they should buy one.

Sipik Clones= Everyone needs to give these to all of their family members and have one in every vehicle. They are great lights and for $6 you just can't beat them.

Thanks for catching those two errors. My calculator and keyboard was getting a workout so I knew I would probably mess something up. Glad it was two quick fixes.

Did you say my test is impossible?

Ceiling bounce readings are simply (big) lightbox readings. Please see:

Ya I don't take my readings as being 100% of what they really are but they seem like they are fairly close. I am mostly using this data for comparing my lights against one another.


I still don't undertand what you mean by "This kind of accuracy with such varied lights and emitters is impossible with ceiling bounce readings taken with a $29 lux meter."

What is "this kind of accuracy"? My data is linear because I multiplied all points by 16.74.

You can’t just take readings and multiply by a constant. Real life is a lot “messier.” Did you read Selfbuilt’s post I gave you the link to and look at his plots? If you want to estimate lumens with a lux meter and a lightbox, take a series of readings versus their reported IS lumens and make a regression formula from them with lumens being the dependent variable, then plug any new lux readings into THAT to estimate lumens, assuming the new readings were taken under the exact same conditions as the readings you developed the regression formula from.

Ok, ya I see what you mean.

Ooooh, to complicated. Just pull a random number out of you ass and mulltiply it by 5 like all the Chinese sellers do. :wink:

:smiley:

Sounds complicated but actually it’s just a few clicks in excel. 8)


I really familiar with doing regression lines in Excel but that is when I have two numbers for each data point.

How can you do a regression line with only one number for each data point?