Thanks for doing that.
I think there are quite a few members here waiting for a review like yours, contemplating whether to buy this torch (myself included).
Hmm - bad luck about the (likely) fault. Hope it’s something you can fix without sending it back.
But that UI - who in their right mind would design such a complicated interface ?
Thanks for that Ramblings. I’ve been meaning to post something about this light, but I wanted to wait until I was sure I had the UI figured out.
I couldn’t figure out what your video was showing at first, until I realized it was auto-ramping. At first I thought you had it set to beacon. Did your torch auto-ramp from the beginning, or did you have to hold the switch down?
At first I thought mine might be faulty, but it was a matter of figuring out the UI.
I really haven’t used mine at all since I got it,(playing with my Eye40) so I never paid any attention to heat. It was below freezing every time I’ve used it outside.
I have it on high right now while I’m drinking my morning coffee, and the head is nice and warm…not hot though. I’ll leave it on for a bit.
Do you think the mod you did to the springs could be affecting your current?
Looking at your before pics, I noticed the springs have one red, and one black resistor wires(I don’t know what to call them). Mine has three red, and one black. Could the tailcap connections be screwing up your draw?
Okay. My light has been on high for a bit now, and it is putting out heat. Hotter than warm, but not enough to burn you. The cooling fins seem to be doing a good job dissipating it. The body is quite warm also.
The head is getting hotter now. I guess mine is running correctly.
I checked the batteries, and they seem to be draining evenly.
I also do not know what the large spring that came with the accessories is for.
Let me know if you need me to check something for you.
thanks Ramblings, and I suppose something wrong with your Roche… I’ve already wrote about RM170 in this topic , so below I will just copy and repeat some points;
in my NW version batteries fits and works any what I have, longest protected battery - 69.5mm, and I don’t think that 70mm will make any problems to fit RM170 - did the test with protected Trustfire(~68.70mm) with adapter for flat tops(~2.18mm). this made almost 71mm, and it works! so… maybe necessary to screw deeply driver(ring around driver) in your RM170 head? I don’t know, it’s just my thoughts…
and it win battle with SRK in any way - longest distance, more bright and focused beam. sad what I don’t have good camera to take some good beamshots/photos(woods starts just from my home), my poor camera can’t take pictures at night in any way 
I’m waiting second RM170 from Ric/CNQG for my friend, with CW diodes and 3 modes. and CW SRK available for comparing also… need to find good camera that can work at nights 
modes… it’s very simple after understand how it works;
1. long press button for turn-on the flashlight(max brightness), after that
2. twice press switch – go to low mode, or
2.1 thrice press switch – go to SOS mode, or
2.2 press and hold switch and flashlight will go to stepless mode(100% – 5% with memory)
from low mode;
3. twice press switch – go to strobe, or
3.1 thrice press switch – go to SOS mode
in strobe or sos modes;
4. continuously fast press switch and flashlight will change modes like: strobe-high-low or sos-high-low.
I suppose you need to send your copy back for replace, one person in RF got RM170 with similar problem, here you can read topic(translate it with Google) and see the photos of disassembled head/driver of Roche m170. hope you will get your new RM170 fast and will not disappointed!
Nice review but wow, 8.5 of 10 happiness rating for a broken light?
If it worked properly, lol. Right now 5/10.
I have checked and double checked these batteries several times in my M170, and these are my findings:
Panasonic NCR 18650B 3400mAh Protected - Too Long
Panasonic NCR 18650A 3100mAh Unprotected(Buttontop) - Works
Sanyo UR18650ZT 18650 2800mAh Protected - Too Long
Sanyo UR18650FM 18650 2600mAh Unprotected(Buttontop) - Works
The unprotected Buttontop cells work without need of the adaptor. I don’t have four flattops to test.
Could you please check the resistance between the inner ring and outer ring on the battery side of the head?
Mine measures ~870ohms.
I'm trying to find signs of a defective driver.
Also, my reflector just falls out when unscrewing the lens bezel.
guys, can you make photos like below and post it here for compare how deeply sit there driver and connection ring around driver:
for understand why in yours RM170’s not fits anything more than 67-68mm. tomorrow I will get from Fasttech protected Panasonic 3400, they almost 70mm long and I’m sure they will fit to my Roche, easily. need understand where and why the difference…
Sorry. I don’t know how to do that…I’m resistance impaired. If a multi meter is required, I have a cheap $9 piece of s**t one that I wouldn’t put too much faith in. I can try if you want, but you will have to tell me what to do. …a pic of MM.
Stan...sorry, just a couple quick ipad shots.
thank you, and, it looks very similar… except on my driver no any numbers like on yours. about how deeply sitting driver in the head, contact ring(+) for batteries exactly 10mm deep in head, ring around the driver(-) like 8.5-9mm deep… please check your if possible. I don’t think that in body/springs anything different, so where the reason for not fit long batteries?
and there have other easy way to make possible to fit long batteries than change the springs - just put in/within plate with springs and body before screwing it back, small shims/spacers - 1-1.5mm fat, and this will add additional 1-1.5mm for fitting your long batteries. but mine 69.5 and tested ~71mm(68.7+2.18) works fine without this trick… strange… any ideas?
My measurements are the same as yours.
I’m not worried. It runs fine with unprotected cells.
I use good cells and check them regularly, so I’m not expecting any problem. I’ll never run it down enough to see how the low voltage protection works, hopefully.
Mine works fine with protected Xtar 3100mAh’s…
There were probabally changes and adjustments made to this light as it was being produced. CNQG were the first to get it. Intl-Outdoor waited for a driver issue to be cleared up before they carried it. Now FastTech has it.
I think Roche is still tinkering with it. Where you got it and when may decide what cells it likes. I see CNQG has an option for 3 mode hi-med-low instead of stepless.
Mine came from Intl-Outdoor.
got today set of protected Panasonics 3400mAh from Fasttech, and they fit and works in my RM170 without any tricks
Reckon the included round spring is for in place where that chunk magnet is not in use, to help support the end plate I suppose.
thanks for that review. man, if i got that light, id be pretty disapointed even if it did work properly. it looks more dim than the king. for the price, id expect to be much brighter than the king
Bumped for updated pics for Roche M170 NW from CNQG/FF.
6th March 2013.
Beamshots/Floodshots/Throwshots coming soon.
below some beamshots of Roche M170 and Skyray King, CW & NW versions -
bigger beamshots are SRK; and as you can see, RM170 more brighter and wins. by the way, 3 mode version of RM170 is better - no any PWM in lowest mode(as well as unpleasant abuzz sound from driver too).
Great beamshots. I think I can tell which ones are which, but if you labeled them below each picture that would help.
In the bottom two pictures, is it RM170 NW, SRK NW, RM170 CW, and SRK CW?