thanks for the info! added to op
Measured the PWM freq on low: 536 Hz
Updated the measurement post with the new number.
Put the rubber bumpers on and it should weigh more than the Shocker.
Edit: Are they on there??? Can’t tell…
Edit2: Yeah looks like it’s on there. NVM :zipper_mouth_face:
I got five bad ones : :Sp
EDIT:
Fixed do to nottawhackjob post…grrr
Specifically the o-rings? Try tightening the tailcap with an extra ‘oomph’ at what seems like the end of its travel. That should allow the contact point to engage even though the o-ring initially blocked it.
The ArmorMax has a nice finish. Looking forward for more.
Also, when I took the tail cap apart, I bent the contact tab on the white clicky outwards, slightly…
>>>>>>>>Also, when I took the tail cap apart, I bent the contact tab on the white clicky outwards, slightly…
Did that to mine also. PLUS the switch tab wasn’t going through the spring but off to the side or on top of it. I forget which, but it wasn’t making any kind of reliable contact.
Looks like it wasn’t a happy day on the assembly line. 
This Defiant has issues. If you are getting it for/or recommending that a non-flashaholic buy this light, you will have to make sure the clicky in the tail cap was assembled correctly, and fix it for them. I have both HD lights, and though the 3 D cell has some advantages, I would stick with the 3 C cell. The 3 D has reflector issues, and assembly issues, and the 3 C has a cleaner hot spot and throws better — not too impressed with the 3 D version.
I think the tail cap on the 3D was a bit over-engineered. To many parts for something that should have been simple. The ArmorMax 3C version (not the Super Thower) has the same type of tail cap design too, including a super long spring.
However, none of this is anything BLF members can’t deal with to improve.
anyone mod this yet?
its at the bottom of my list of about 6 mods i have ongoing (waiting for parts, deciding on drivers etc)
i figure maybe i will wait till mouser has the new 90cri XML2 warm white 3200k in stock, stipple the reflector and make a nice incan looking beam out of this one
I would love to see a 1D version of this! Think its possible to thread the tube since the space for the label takes up so much room? Also waiting to see some good lux numbers…or maybe I should just buy a lux meter myself. 
Dont know how I would get that by the wife; maybe distract her with shoes.
purses work well too
Went to the local HD for the 3rd time trying to find this 3D light, even though online showed 5 in stock, no one had been able to find one in the store on multiple visits.
Today they were sitting on the shelf, alongside a 3C version of the Armor max, and a 2AA version Armormax. (Is this new news, or have I missed posts about these?)
the 3C model packaging stated 225lumen, 3 mode. The reflector was much smaller in diameter - more along the lines of a Mag-C. I couldn’t easily tell what emitter was in it - it was very small - looked to be smaller than the XP-G’s I’ve used in other lights. Nichia 219 maybe? I’ve never seen one of those in person. SKU 852740 $24.97 @ my store.
The 2AA model was mini-mag sized, and stated as 70lumen. Emitter in this one was quite large - looked to be XM-L sized, but it didn’t seem like one to me, comparing it to the emitter in the 3D model. SKU 852546 $17.97 @ my store.
Pics:
3C Armormax
3C emitter
2AA (thought I had taken a pic of the emitter too - I can’t find it on my phone )
nice find! i saw those on the HD website last night, i am going to see if my local HD has any when i go to pick up some new cree bulbs
Looks like you posted the wrong link for the 2AA one. Edit, you fixed it.
-Garry
I actually didn’t grab any of the 3, after reading some of the issues people have had with the 3D - I already own 2 of the 3C tactical throwers, and the 2AA didn’t really ring my bell when I can buy an XM-L Ultrafire 502 on Amazon for $13 all day long.
I’m pretty bad, huh?
I think I was fixing it before you posted, lol.
I'd like to hear how the pill/heatsinking is on the 2AA. Could be a decent mod host (not having to fit a heatsink into a Maglite 2AA). What kind of switch does the 2AA have? Side switch, tail switch? Twisty?
-Garry
I probably should have grabbed one (or both, or all 3) now that I think about it. The 2AA model actually seemed a little bigger than a minimag. Closer to my 502 or a surefire G2. Little longer though.