The thrunite puts up insane test numbers so someone figured something out where an XM-L can give signicantly more output on a single AA than an XP-G.
problem is stock piles of old emitters,how long do you think
Oh dear ! , took a good 12 months for XP-G to filter down to AA and AAA lights .. [ ecconomy lights ]
Im still waiting for ITP XP-G R5 to be available mainstream ...
Too many variables , but just depends on what the manufacturer is sitting on ... Look at all the XRE-Q5 lights out there
+ What Cree wants for the Emitters , if cree is dumping cheap Q5 etc emitters into the market , then manufacturers may be less inclined to put in more expensive emitters ..
The margin on the budget lights cant be very high ...
Just ordered a Thrunite Neutral Neutron 1c light last night. It really has incredible test results. I also plan to build a L2r with a powerful boost driver I got from KD. Lets see how Neutron will compare.
Which driver is that?
Thanks :)
Weird an item with a full discription at KD! :P
If it has same output at lower levels
and isn't any more efficient
and color /tint hasn't caught up
then ..I guess I don't care
I have a 350 lumen xpg aa/14500
what it needs more than a few more lumens for the. wow factor is a very low low instead
at some point you have to have a mix of runtime and output
or just jump to a bigger battery / bigger light
I know it’s not budget but I have Quark Mini 123 XML. 1 x CR123 with a claimed 210 lumens OTF. Probably 180 ANSI but runs a little over an hour on high. How long could a similarly driven 1 x AA run?
learningcurveFoy
The XM-L is very slightly brighter (but not noticeably so) than the XP-G at up to 700mA, which is about the maximum current one can expect from a 1xAA configuration.
But maybe XM-L would be preferred over XP-G and XR-E for its beam pattern and for its lower thermal resistance?
the only way to get full power with xm-l and aa size are use aw 14500 imr
Theres no reason it has to be an AW IMR, any high current IMR will do.
There are cheaper options - but they probably won't run as long.
Zebralight SC51 pulls 200 lumens off a single aa nimh and lasts about 46 minutes. The Thrunite Neutron 1a may run as high as 240 lumens on a single aa nimh and goes 44 minutes. The Fenix LD10 R4 will do about 150 lumens on a nimh and last about an hour.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?311559-Thrunite-Neutron-Series-(XM-L)-1C-2C-1A-2A-Review-RUNTIMES-BEAMSHOTS-and-more! The 1xaa figures are about 2/3 down.
That Neutron looks awesome.
thankssirjohnFoy
I put an XML in a Romisen RC-G2 and run it direct drive with a 14500.
I get 2.3 Amps to the LED but only run it for short periods. If you need a lot of light for a limited time it is ideal.
I would LOVE a 14500 powered XM-L! Would make a great little pocket rocket as long as it has at least 3 good modes.
Looks like the near-budget XML 14500 is almost here!
Xeno E03 with XML in cool, neutral or warm tints. 490 lumens on XML and looks to be shipping within days. About $29 for cool or $33 for neutral / warm.
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?251654-NEW!-XM-L-Xeno-E03!!!-500LM-AA-14500-Pocket-Rocket!-(CW-NW-WW!)
That’s hot! I really like the finger grips molded into the body. Looks like a sweet torch!
Edit: Looking again at the design it's a shame they put the cooling fins on the wrong end of the light. They won't do much good being covered my the user's sweaty palms. They should have put the fins up by the head where they would do the most good.
Wow, now that is enticing! I think I'll be getting a black XM-L in neutral once the first reviews come in. I wonder how difficult it is to get a clip onto that. Does anyone have one of these Xeno E03's?