Review: The P60 budget host trio from MF

There is also the identical Uniquefire R5 (Which came with an R4 dropin just to confuse people). Mine has the plastic removable switch retaining ring.

I updated the post above.

I always wondered why the Skyray didn't get more praises from BLF members, when it came to build quality. I would rate the old DX ones (host only) very good and the LT one only mediocre, because of the thin walls on the tailcap and the contact problems. On the other hand, the dropin which came with the DX one only lasted less than a month, due to a burned driver. The imprints on the lights are the same Sky-Ray....Hot surface... The only way to tell them apart from the outside is the length of the grooves on the tailcaps.

There are quite a few copies of the Sereph out there ..[ Same factory ? different printing ? ] Which is best ?

I can vouch for the Sky Ray , so far so good .

I have the same tailcap grooves as your DX 2010 one, but the switch internals seems to be as your LT 2011 verson (black cap), unless you mixed up left and right the the lower pictures.

What drop-in did you have in your DX version?

The one I got from Manafont is the same as the LT one. I've never had any issues with it. Mine tailstand perfectly, the button does not protrude although it is as close as it can be. I can see that there could certainly be variables there. It has a nice snappy button too. It seems to scratch very easily also.

So mfm , you are right, I did the old switcheroo in the description on the lower pics ... now corrected.. sorry for the confusion.

LT 2011: Long tailcap grooves, white plastic internals, brass contact cap, thin walls on tailcap.

DX 2010: Short tailcap grooves, black plastic internals, silver steel contact cap, much much thicker walls on tailcap.

So Manafont is selling the better version, which is like the old DX ones?

And Lightake the not-so-good one?

Damn should have ordered at Manafont , they seem to be better and cheaper.

This was the DX Version ordered on 02/26/2010 ... advertised as XP-E R4, but came as an XP-G ..probably R5 .... man DX hasn't updated this mistake in over a year.... overall still the best 1*18650 host body for a bike light together with this bike mount, when the first rubber ring is removed.

My DX driver lasted less than a minute. They said it would work with 2xRCR123.

It wouldn't.

:(

The DX one didn't even survive a 18650 battery. Host very good - dropin very bad ... at least back in 2010.

This pic is from MF shows short grooves and a hint of a brass conctact I believe... so it's all a big lottery:

To add more confusion, This is one ordered from MF a few months ago. almost a hybrid of the two.

Strange, no 1st plastic retainer ring... looks like alu ... it gets stranger by the minute.

Is the switch looking like this, held by a second retainer ring made of alu?:

This one came from MF one month ago

Budgeteer: Do you have any Solarforce L2 variants? If yes, how would you compare them against the WF-504b?

Thanks!

+2, that's what mine looks like as well.

I have only a fake solarforce L2, a uniquefire L2 and some others... pretty much on par with those.

I've got a KD 'Solarforce' L2 and a 504B. The 504B has a slightly (~1mm) narrower battery tube and has less metal in the head than the L2.

Here is another comparison photo showing the 504B, the Sky Ray, a Solarforce L2 and a Solarforce L2i

That L2i is really growing on my; I like the fact it is shorter than the others.

So, you like the L2i, do you?

vindicatedFoy

Yes, I like it very much. Shorter, CHEAPER, and I like the heft of the larger diameter battery tube.

Not much to dislike about the light.

Very nice Budgeteer! It's nice to see a comparison review. As usual, great photography. Thanks for the details!

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