Just typed in the search box MC-E
http://intl-outdoor.com/mce-color-and-dynamic-white-17mm-driver-p-686.html
I rotates between the colors or mixes them depends on which mode or group you are, there's a description on their website.
Who’s built one? What host did you use. Has anyone done a P60 yet?
i really didn’t read that description properly! when i saw ‘police mode….’ i thought my fears were confirmed :weary:
hike: thank you for pointing the group feature out to me, this should make it more useful at least! i had already e-mailed them and they said there were no plans to release a 7 colour version.
vesture: i don’t own the previous one so don’t know how blinky would function, but my first impression is the same as yours the description sounds like it fast cycles between 4 colours
i’ve never tried a multi-group driver, could anyone tell me if a surface mount switch would be sufficient to bridge the stars, if there is one that small… that way you could have semi-access to 6 colours…
I built two, but with the green coloured 20mm driver, see this thread there is also a video of the UI of that 'first gen. green coloured' intl-outdoor 20mm mcecolour driver. About adding 7135 chips: in that driver at least there is only one 'entrance' of the circuitry from the minus for all four dies, it is a tiny component that already gets red hot from the max 800mA that the driver draws. That may also be the reason that at any given moment just one of the four dies lights. They apparantly redesigned the driver and now there is also the blue version, in 20 and 17mm. I haven't looked at those closely enough but at least by combining the stars there are options that two dies light at the same time.
What really needs to happen is for manufacturers to consult us before releasing product. :) LOL! How conceded is that......
Seriously though that is a pretty cool driver. In fact it the only driver I have ever seen that even made me consider buying a RGB led.
What I REALLY wish there was though is some modes that pulsed the led colors back and forth after only one shot. Like say in the police mode rather than RRR BBB RR have a mode that went RBRBRBRB Or better still would be RGB RGB RGB at a semi fast rate.
I think I am still going to get one.
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Hank from intl outdoor told me it does not use 7135s, I think you can see that from the photo actually.
Your right. I glanced at that picture before and thought that 7135s were what I saw there but it appears something else is written there.
I am still confident there must be a way to boost the current. I cant read the numbers on the chips, but maybe its possible that those chips will work similar to how 7135s do. It'd be worth a shot anyway :)
I finally got the correct emitters from Intl-outdoor, thumbs up to Hank and his customer service! 
The chips are marked D882, the data sheet can be found here.
I did some quick testing to ensure everything was working with the driver and LED. While testing I measured amps at the emitter and obtained the following:
White - 700ma
Red - 620ma
Green - 680ma
Blue - 690ma
I find it odd that the Red die is being under-driven slightly compared to the others, no biggie though. For those of you that do decide on using any of the MC-E RGBW drivers I’d highly recommend replacing the stock wires on the driver and use different colors. It would be the only sane way to correctly solder the wires from the driver to the emitter. The driver does not have mode memory for those that are curious. Normally I prefer foward clicky switches, but for cycling through 6 modes I’m gonna go with a reverse clicky for this setup. The IC used for controlling the modes is unknown as the identifying marks have been removed/masked.
saw 20mm stars at led-tech
http://www.led-tech.de/en/High-Power-LEDs-Cree/CREE-XM-Serie/CREE-XM-L-Color-on-Star-PCB-LT-2074_120_170.html
lilkevin:
reprogramming it would have been a dream 0:) look forward to see what it can do!
I’ve tried various reflectors and optics and the majority don’t work that well. So far a modified XP-G OP reflector works reasonably well, still not a perfect beam though (donut). A aspherical setup works well for projecting the individual dies. I was especially suprised on the tint of the neutral white die. Here is a beamshot compared to a Nichia 219.
Here are some short vids as well, group A on the driver is selected.
Reflector
Aspherical
I have used an XML P60 dropin and I am very happy with the result, especially for police/military/traffic use.
When you say modified XPG reflector you mean you have make the reflecor opening wider, so MCE fits?
Also, XML RGB can work with the MCE driver (700 ma), or we should wait for an upgraded one?
Yes I bored open the emitter hole in the reflector as shown below.
The XM-L Color RGBW should be optically superior compared to the MC-E when used with a reflector. The only mcpcb’s for the XM-L rgbw I’ve seen so far are 20mm. If it can be filed down to size safely then it might be worth it. You’ll have to check the XM-L data sheet vs the MC-E to see if the additional 300ma is worth it to you.
Today i received a xml colour on 20 mm pcb from ledtech. No tests yet but here are some comparison pictures with the MCE colour plus some comments on it. Whenever I have time I will build it into a flashlight.
First a direct comparison next to MCE-clour. A direct surprise: the die size as seen through the dome is not at all different from the MCE, and also at 45deg. angle the dies do not look optically much different. I had expected the xml-colour to have smaller dies closer together but this is not the case, or if this is the case, it is compensated by the more curved dome. So this led is going to behave very similar to the MCE-colour. It is just the xml-packaging that is much smaller and flatter, making it easier to swap it into a xml-flashlight.
At close-up another surprise that could explain it (xml left, mce right): the dies look very very similar (the red one looks slightly different), I can not say of course that they are the same just by the looks, but at least the neutral white die is of the old generation, with lanes instead of the specs.
If indeed the dies are not different from the MCE-colour the only reason that the xml-colour is rated at 1000mA (opposed to 700mA for the MCE), is an improved thermal path to the outside of the led.
One more picture, with a xml2 for comparison: the four dies together are just a bit larger than the xml2-die.
Next step is a flashlight build, using the intl-outdoor driver for the mce because there is no 4x1000mA driver for the xml-colour yet. Like lilkevin715 said, the MCE-colour does not behave nicely in a variety of reflectors and I do not expect much difference from the xml-colour, but I may be surprised 
Thanks for sharing djozz. Nice pictures…
I have one 17mm driver and 16mm MCE on the way from intl-outdoor. Looking forward to it… Have no idea what I am going to use it for 
, but what can I say. Never had colored emitters or something fancy, this combo gives lots of stuff in one package. That I like…
So, what do people use these for? Except fooling around with and playing with them…. 
(btw, I really liked the police strobe… hehe)
For me it is just the fun, and lots of that 
. But others may have a good use for it?
hehe… Im looking forward to the fun part… Hopefully it will be fun for more than 3 min…
No matter, it will add some uniqueness in between all my “regular” colored flashlights…
Djozz great pics!
Can you build 2 flashlights using the 700mA driver, so we can make a comparison between MC-E & XM-L?
I am afraid I only have one driver at the moment, so I can not build them both. I do have a Sipik sk68 with the mce-colour and the green coloured 20mm driver though (earlier build), so no direct comparison (the xml will go into a reflector light, with the 17mm blue driver) but I can compare the tailcap currents for the different leds and compare the colours.
with this driver, it looks mainly useful for pulling pranks on your friends (police! put down your weapons! :_( )
i have been interested in the colour xm-l since it came out, as an alternative to the ledengin lz4 for lightsaber building. without a proper colour mixing driver, i would probably connect it to a mini RF RGB strip controller in direct drive and some resistors stuffed inside a host with battery extension. this information vs the mc-e is surprising to me, looking forward to your build djozz