How long before we see XM-L in 1xaa budget lights?

That Neutron looks awesome.

thankssirjohnFoy

I put an XML in a Romisen RC-G2 and run it direct drive with a 14500.

I get 2.3 Amps to the LED but only run it for short periods. If you need a lot of light for a limited time it is ideal.

I would LOVE a 14500 powered XM-L! Would make a great little pocket rocket as long as it has at least 3 good modes.

Looks like the near-budget XML 14500 is almost here!
Xeno E03 with XML in cool, neutral or warm tints. 490 lumens on XML and looks to be shipping within days. About $29 for cool or $33 for neutral / warm.
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?251654-NEW!-XM-L-Xeno-E03!!!-500LM-AA-14500-Pocket-Rocket!-(CW-NW-WW!)

That’s hot! I really like the finger grips molded into the body. Looks like a sweet torch!

Edit: Looking again at the design it's a shame they put the cooling fins on the wrong end of the light. They won't do much good being covered my the user's sweaty palms. They should have put the fins up by the head where they would do the most good.

Wow, now that is enticing! I think I'll be getting a black XM-L in neutral once the first reviews come in. I wonder how difficult it is to get a clip onto that. Does anyone have one of these Xeno E03's?

There are quite a few reviews of the earlier XPG model EO3. It actually got quite positive reviews even compared to some of the more premium flashlight brands.

I had a look around, but I can't find a photo of this light taken apart. I wondered if it was possible to reverse the tube and have those fins at the head end, I guess someone is just going to have to get one and tell us :)

got a red one in cool white on the way. quite quick response already got tracking, ordered last night.

Got so excited seeing that xeno while browsing blf on my phone at work that I just ordered a blue one:) where are they shipping them from?



from the look of it.. California.

OK so I got the 14mm XML from Shiningbeam in the mail this week and I checked and it will fit perfectly in my R5-A3 with the strobe delete mod, my current amp draw.

Tail cap draw with freshly charged trust fire flame 14500.

High 1.648 amps
Med .467 amps
Low .168 amps

I think the low will not be low enough, but I could live with that. Does anyone want to guess what the max lumens on high will be?

Thanks,

E

Assuming it has about the same draw I’d say around 600 lumen.

I could not resist. I mounted the 14mm XML T6 from Shiningbeam, it fits perfect.

http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/the-253/**NEW**-Cree-XM-dsh-L-T6/Detail

Something weird happened when I went to check amperage at the tailcap with a freshly charged Trustfire flame 14500 at 4.135V I got:

1.813amps on high

.533amps on medium

.194 amps on low

It's pretty bright, the hotspot is bigger but with about the same brightness and a lot more flood. The low mode is acceptable. So if you buy the KD version of this light for $14, the Shiningbeam emitter for $11 and do the strobe delete mod for free you get a pretty sweet light for $25. The other strange thing is the light does not seam to heat up as fast or as much.

Sweet! Quick calculations show you should be getting about the following:

High - 725lm
Medium - 213lm
Low - 77.6lm

My real worry would be the light not heating up much. I have a TF-F23 and on high that bugger heats up REAL good and that's with a Q5 pulling between 1000mA-1100mA. Granted it's a 10440 cell in a stainless body but an XM-L pulling 1813mA should get pretty warm in such a small light as yours. I'd go over it again to make sure it's heatsinked as best as possible.

Johnny

That R5-E3 is a sporty looking little light with that red ring in the tail. How many pieces does it break down into? From the pics on KD it looks like only the tail cap and the bezel come off and the entire body is one piece.

Those lumen numbers seam rather optimistic, it is not nearly as bright as my Yezl Z1X XML. The entire body is one piece, the pill screws out from the top. I had posted some pictures on how to mod this driver to delete the strobe mode. I can take it apart once the thermal epoxy dries and take some more pics if you want. I am pretty happy with the outcome, I think the heat transfer issue might be do to the epoxy still being wet I packed it with FUJIK.

Johnny - Can I ask a dumb question? What did you use to arrive at those lumens? I've just discovered amps (I know, it took a while, I'm a slow learner) and I'm curious how to predict lumens as you seem to have done.

Foy

Foy if you have a look here http://flashlight-wiki.com/Brightness_Bins then you can see the output at various currents - I assume these were taken from Cree's datasheet.

As you can see there is a non-linear relationship between current and output, which makes it a little bit harder to come up with a figure for any perticular current.

You can plot a graph using know points and estimate that way which is probably most accurate...or you can fluff it by assuming that it is a linear progression between the two nearest values.

(I'm away from home at the moment, as it turns out IE seems to still not have a spellchecker...so err shh :)

I just tried the following: Solarforce L2r + Ultrafire 900 mAh (right...) + AA spacer + Manfont 3 mode XM-L.

It started out very bright. My other XM-L was busy as part of another test (separate post on that shortly, I hope), so I didn't have another XM-L to compare against. I did a comparison with a low voltage XP-G driven by a 16340 and I'm confident that the XM-L/14500 combination started off brighter.

I stopped the test after 30 minutes. At that point, the XM-L/14500 combination was still pretty bright but not as bright as a fresh XP-G/16340 combination. I tested the voltage on the 14500 at 3.12 v, which suggests that there wasn't a lot of life left in the 14500.

I don't think any of this should be surprising given what we know about the XM-L and battery capacities, but I thought I'd pass the anecdote along.