INTL-OUTDOOR Direct-Thermal Copper MCPCB Review

not sure if this helps, but I saw a very neat thread (ba bam!) on homeshopmachinist a while back about making your own half nuts. I can’t remember the exact process, but the gist of it was to use some delrin tube cut in half length ways so it fitted within the metal shell (?), then clamped around the lead screw (or equivalent rod with same pitch and diameter) which was then heated with a blow torch while clamping down on the delrin. By the looks of it, the delrin softened enough to form into the threads. It’s a bit hazy I’m afraid, which isn’t helped by the fact that my lathe doesn’t have a lead screw (or half nuts!) so it’s a somewhat magical dreamed about lathe part that I don’t understand.

Either way, it sounded pretty neat :slight_smile:

if I put solder in the hole of the sinkpad will it be better than heat conductive paste??
does the 2 degrees higher temp make the sinkpads a lot worse?

You won’t notice any difference in real world application georgek.
It’s theoretical maximum temperature at some spot that has 2°C difference in the theoretical model.

Sure flat is better but it’s not like going from Aluminum to Copper :bigsmile:

The same can be said about having and XM-L at 2.6A and at 3A, no real difference in real world application...

only about 100 lumens, shining it on your wall won’t matter much, but outside 100 more lumens makes slightly more difference

I don't shine lights on the wall... I only care about outside but that is not the point.

i agree with your original point that the sinkpad vs noctigon won’t have much real world difference, but your 100 lumen less example i disagree with

I concur with Bort. Just fill the void of the SinkPAD board with a CPU silver paste and that’s it, or solder it and then polish the bottom flat.

but these noctigons are two for the price of one sinkpad. and with better thermal design, it almost makes me wonder why anyone would purchase a sinkpad again
not saying toss your sinkpad and buy the noctigon, but just makes sense for future purchases

Exactly. Makes more sense for future purchase since they are cheaper and “better”.

However, cost aside, both will function with relatively little difference. I think the analogy of 2.6A vs 3.0A is a flawed comparison. There is a noticeable difference there.

I was trying to say let's not ignore a small difference (2Celsius), mostly thinking on the number itself 2.6 vs 3, not the current itself 2.6A 3A. I was ironic in that post. I actually like to get the best out of everything, like AR coated lens even if I gain only 5% more light transmission, that 5% is not a standard of course, quality of the AR or single and double sided ca make a difference in gains, or even poor uncoated original can make a higher percentage gain.

Depends how you get your SinkPADs, but yes they cost something usually.
Anybody knows a website of Noctigon? Couldn’t find it.

House brand of International Outdoor Store

Well sure, so they also got a manufacturing for direct copper boards? Interesting.

I guess you can ask Hank, he's got a dedicated thread for them here.

I also like the fact that the noctigon is easily available, and a good price, but the gold will reduce performance slightly, i’m not sure by how much though but i do hope its negligible, but it is possible the sinkpad may have a slight advantage being all copper, but i still agree that real world performance should be comparable between the two.

I thought only the solder pads were gold plated?
Either way, the results show a slight edge to the noctigon

the bottom is also gold plated, and the thermal analysis didn’t take into account the gold portion, i assume it will only make a degree or two difference, but so does the divet in the sinkpad

Didn’t notice that. Good eye.
Though if people are worried about that, they can polish the gold plating off much easier than lapping that divot out.
But if I could get two sinkpads for the price of one noctigon, I would be going for the sinkpad.

It's probably a 2-3microns thick finish (0.002-0.003mm) and hardly has an effect.