Solarforce S2200 MT-G2

Jetbeam RRT-01. :slight_smile:

Thanks Woody

Woohoo! My S2200 hit my Post Office 6AM this morning! Looks like todayā€™s the day! :slight_smile: I was hoping as much, and have 3 cells ready to try it out. Is there any real issue with using 2 AW 2600mAh Protected cells and 1 RediLast 2600mAh Protected cell as long as their Voltage is same or very similar? 4.22 4.21 4.20 with the 4.22 and 4.20 charged on my UltraFire WF-188 and the 4.21 charged on Cottonpickers USB 700ma charger. These are measurements taken on rested cells, just read em at 9:19 and they were charged yesterday afternoon.

Edit: the one at 4.22 quit at 4.14 (the charger got moved and it broke connection, this charger is funny that way with sliders that are very coarse in movement) and I put it back onā€¦it stopped well after the original pair started with that 4.22 showing.

I would not mix cells in a series config. Not good.

I donā€™t have 3 of any same battery, got pairs as one was always a backup to the other. Iā€™ve got 2 AW 2600, 1 AW 3400, 2 RediLast 2600, 2 Panasonic NCR18650PD with 4 more of the Pannys on the way.

Correction, I DO have 3! I raided my wifes P1D and found a matching AW 2600 Protected. :slight_smile:

Edit: Sucks getting old, I would have bet money that the cell in my wifes P1D was an AW 2900mAh Protected cell. My memory is horrible. Scary, isnā€™t it? I use Li-ions.

Eager to see how she looks and works.

Can anyone guess what I have in my hot little hands? :slight_smile:

6 days from Hong Kong to Central Texas, must be a new record.

Itā€™s Big!
Itā€™s Black!
Itā€™s Impressive!

So, what is it everyone wants to know? The MT-G2 is freakin huge! The reflector is gorgeous with a light stipple that shows the emitter very well. No artifacts, nice hot spot, good spill. Beautiful tint. Slighter whiter than a Nichia 219 but very reminiscent.

Iā€™ve got 3 AW 2600mAh cells, fresh charged but rested. My DMM is a cheap one. I use a 1.5ā€ long piece of 12Ga copper from Romex to take tailcap readings. Some will be disappointed with these numbers, but remember Iā€™m not a reviewer and am not experienced with this kind of thing. But, that said, Lo shows .08 Med shows .700 and Hi shows 2.11A. So, is there a multiplier in there with 3 li-ion cells in series? Somebody please tell me what these numbers mean! Seem low to me.

I will try to get some pics this afternoon, and some beamshots tonight. Beamshots against a couple different lights but only one of known output. That would be the EDC+ Triple XPG at 720 lumens OTF.

It is a very impressive looking light, to be certain. Perfectly executed with not a single blemish on it that I have seen so far. Pics to follow.

Edit: Can a Serial # of 9 mean I actually got the 9th one? Radical!

So in this case it gets a bit more complicated, you have to do some math.

2.11 amps*11.1 volts=23.421 watts

23.421 watts*.8 driver efficiency=18.7368 watts

18.7368 watts/6.25 volts=2.997888 amps

This means approximately 3 amps i getting to the LED (assuming a 6.25 vf and a 80% driver efficiency)

Nice, Iā€™m really looking forward to more of your impressions of this beast.

Assuming voltage of freshly charged cells quickly drops to 4V apiece at 2A, 3(4V)*2.11A equals ~25 Watts input power. Assuming 90% driver efficiency that means ~22.5W to the emitter. Going on that assumption and the assumption that the MT-G2 is dropping 6.3V we can assume the emitter current is 3.6A

12V*2.11A*90%Ć·6.3V=3.6A

The light blue line is AW 2600mAh. Courtesy of HKJ.

If they didnā€™t change the driver from the S1100 (I would be surprised if they did), the S2200 fully drives its MT-G2 :bigsmile:

Sounds good to me! :slight_smile: Itā€™s bright, donā€™ know yet how far it throws but the beam is very nice, think Iā€™m really gonna like it outdoors. When you hold the mode button (lit green with good charge) down for a couple of seconds it goes into a strobe, I kept holding it down and the strobe seemed to get fast, beamshot on the wallā€¦.my eyes began to swim! lol I know some are affected by that more than others. Iā€™m usually able to look directly at a strobe with none of that disorientation effect. From 8ā€™ away with the beam on a white wall, things were getting a bit wonky. Very effective strobe on this one!

Not a lot of pics for me to take, as itā€™s the same body as Foyā€™s review. So thereā€™s not much point in my trying to do-over Foys shots. But the reflector and emitter, ahh, beauty in the beast! :slight_smile:

Processing a couple of pics, will get em up in a little while.

But if you run the numbers like scaru showed above with fresh cells at 4.20V itā€™s more like 3.40A getting to the emitter at start-up. So between 3.4A and 3.0A from start to moderately run down. Does that sound about right? Seems like they did a pretty good job here and didnā€™t keep it super conservative like they did their M3 head.

The S2200 shot on the wall (dark paneling and some pictures, daylight) at about 10-12ā€™ just simply blows the doors off my HD2010 thatā€™s pushing around 850-900 lumens. Shine the HD2010 first and totally make the hot spot go away with the S2200. Which is pretty dang good, considering the HD2010 is modded fairly extremely and hits 350-450 yds pretty well. (Pulling 2.88A from a Powerizer IMR26650 [LiNiMnCo] with XM-L2 on copper driven with a stock Q-Lite)

Well, if it was run off of a 4.2 volt power supply then it might do 3.4 amps, but the voltage of the batteries will sag quite a lot. If you want to be optimistic use 4 volts.

Ok, I surrender. I donā€™t know the numbers or the forumulaā€™s so I wonā€™t even try to speculate. Iā€™m sure yā€™all will figure that out soon enough and Iā€™ll sit back and read it. Wonā€™t understand it, but Iā€™ll read it.

Looking like it could rain, hope I can get beamshots tonight. Wonā€™t be here at all tomorrow or tomorrow night so it might be a few days before I can get back to it if it rains tonight.

Hope these accent Foys, donā€™t mean to try to take anything away from his work on the S1100.

The S2200

The head/reflector

Letā€™s have a look, shall we

MT-G2ā€¦whoa! Monsta emitter in the house!

Hope to get outside in a little while for some beamshots, wish me luck!

looks nice. thanks for sharing.

Looks like typical Solarforce, but on a huge scale. Iā€™m glad they are getting serious with their latest forays in the non-host flashlight biz.

I got to go out and get some beamshots, rain bypassed us. The S2200 is definately a seriously bright light. It, as predicted, is not a whopping thrower. My HD2010 has been pretty heavily modified and is pulling 2.88A at the tail on a XM-L2 @ 5000K. That same 5000K tint looks bluish compared to the MT-G2. While the HD2010 has been my best thrower to date, the S2200 meets it, and ups the ante. It doesnā€™t throw further. Theyā€™re about the same in the distance dept. But it puts out at least twice the light. More light everywhere, even downrange where it makes it easy to focus the camera thereā€™s the same light out to the sides. So in that regard too it wallops the HD2010. My little L2P with M3 head looked pathetic, so much so I didnā€™t even include any pics from it. I once thought itā€™s throw was respectable, but it fell flat. And was much bluer in color appearance.

I ran the light for short bursts, a dozen times or more. I took it for a brief walk and compared em without the camera, searching things out. I could see trees in our back 40 some 475 yds away. Couldnā€™t make anything out but could see they were there. And while the 2010 created a relatively narrow path of light to look down, the 2200 put out a nice wide swath of light, all the way to the back fence. Pretty respectable. The solid midsection where the emitter is mounted warmed ever so slightly. Really. Barely noticeable. The cells measured 4.09, 4.09, and 4.10 when I came inside.

This picture is big. Crunched the JPEG a bit to get it down from 43MB to 16MB. So if you click on it and go to the larger versions in Flickr, be aware it might take a little while on some systems.

If youā€™re looking for throw, get the S1100. If you want the best of both worlds, this S2200 just might be for you!

My kids have been asking me what I want for Fatherā€™s Dayā€¦

I think I now know what that will be :)!!

Edit: BTW, this has an OP reflector right? I wonder what itā€™d be like if it had an SMO?

One more thing, when I was out walking around with it just before full dark I was surpised at something Iā€™d never seen before. The emitter is so fn huge it collected what little ambient light there was and almost appeared to glow down at the bottom of that salad bowl reflector! Iā€™m serious, you could see that orange/yellow ball down there when the other lights showed nothing. Like in the pic up above where it fills the reflector with yellow reflection, you could see that in near darkness! Impressively huge!

And Iā€™ll add what Foy was impressed about, the build is flawless. Very professional. No quirks, nothing. The lens has the AR they say it has, in a reddish hue like some binoculars. They even left the ā€œVoltugeā€ intact. lol