on a different post the other day I mentioned the whole nitecore MAP debacle and was told it was NOT a MAP issue but that they were not a retailer for crelant and this came from crelent. I believe it was due to the fact once again due to someone hi-jacking a thread started by a seller (MD lightsource) promoting his product and they had to talk about how much cheaper FT was. People seem to shoot themselves in the foot around here.
Darn, that 7G9v2 was a steal, stupid me for holding out, but may not have gotten shipped anyway. I paid $81 for my 7G9 via eBay a while back, then shortly after it became more commonly available for that price anyway. Just may have to buy a Shocker from Ric now - XM-L2's/Noctigons/resistor mod I'm think'n.
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Hello, everybody,
This is Vivian from Crelant company, i am hereby to declare and inform that “fASTTECH” is not our distributor, he even don’t have the supply source. I believe and i am very sure that this is a very bad action that want to disturb this market.
Thanks.
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Ditto!
I want one bad.
I think it’s a huge shame these companies keep screwing Fasttech for just trying to give us a good deal, they can’t be selling at a loss, especially considering they include shipping.
The main reason I prefer to buy from Fasttech are their great service, free shipping (unlike md-lightsource where I’ve bought my Crelant’s for a fair bit more than FT) but mostly for the fact that they cover return shipping for any warranty issues which is the biggest risk when buying internationally, not many other retailers offer that!
All this MAP stuff seems to do is annoy the customer, I’ve seen quite a few posts on here that say they refuse to buy Nitecore for those reasons and i’m guessing there will be some about Fenix and Crelant soon too.
All I will say is I ain’t happy how all this blew over myself and how and who brought about this change. I know what was done. Somebody complained.
I was getting ready to buy the Crelant 7G9 Xm-L2 for like $80 shipped. I know a person has got to make some money when they are in business for themself. But at the same time it screws a lot of folks that wanted to get in on some of FastTech’s great prices on these Crelant lights. That like I said ain’t us members problem. But now it is.
It does’nt take a guy with a very big IQ to figure out what in fact went on here. I don’t think FastTech was doing anything wrong. They have always been good to me and upfront. So the more I think about how this was played out here, the madder I become. One lousy complaint ruined it for us all.
Quite frankly - I couldn’t care less about MAP and whatever agreements manufacturers have with dealers. But all this drama caused by different dealers/manufacturers complaining is just retarded. First nitecore with illumination supply and now crelant/fasttech…
I think the irony in all this is most people will just end up avoiding certain brands of lights because of the drama caused.
I will buy from illumination supply again, and I will buy from fast tech again. I most likely will not buy nitecore or crelant again.
If you followed the thread that the originated from you would see that Fasttech can get as many Crelants as you want. But Crelant, or an employee of Crelant started shouting their mouth off saying that Fasttech were not authorised dealers and making ridiculous statements about them not having a warranty. So Fasttech simply told them to stick them up their arse!
Good on Fasttech!
Marc.
Maybe part of the equation is that Crelant new website now has an online store with some discount and free shipping (over 50usd), so they didn't like the idea of fighting for low prices against other webstores...
It looks to me that lately not so many international webstores carry Crelant, and the ones that appears to carry them are selling only the older models (pre xm-l2).
Even IO had a great assortment a few months ago and now has one light only.
Well I was a huge Crelant fan. Not anymore. I am a huge FastTech fan. And I am a huge FastTech customer. Just ask them. They got my full support on this shannagin that was pulled here in another thread. All it did was piss several folks off here including me.
kind of sucks that this had to blow up in madecov's thread. he is a good guy to deal with
I’ll probably buy from all the above ’cause I really don’t care about MAP and can see both sides of the issue. There is way too much drama here and if this ruins your day you seriously need to see a shrink…seriously.
I would also suggest all manufacturers, distributors and retailers keep their disagreements and what should be private discussions OUT of the public realm. You all look like idiots for airing your dirty laundry here on BLF…just sayin’.
Well I got nothing against Mark. But at the same time I hate to see others lose out on great prices as well. The way I look at it is if I pay $100 for a light, and you buy the exact same one for $60, you got the better deal. I’ll be damned if I’m gonna take it out on you. It’s not your fault.
He could be a good guy (I don't know him) but sure he wasn't happy about the prices FT was advertising on the same lights he sells...
+1
As I said in that thread, the irony is that the person that did the most damage to MD was Liping (Crelant)! She did not need to start making accusations like that, especially when you see Fasttech’s reply.
Marc.
+1 well said.
FastTech was in fact slandered in that thread. They had no choice but to respond. I know I would as well.
They were being slapped and had false accusations against them. And no matter what the bs of all that brought all this about nobody deserves that crap.
actually, that brings up a good idea. all these chinese lights with MAP, they should stop having distributing them to resellers, and start their own online store. that way they can see the results. if they go with a high profit margin per light (im guessing their MAP is more than 300% what the light costs to manufacture) they will sell less. if they go with a lower profit per light, they will sell a lot more lights. that will be a higher overall profit, and more word of mouth about people talking about their new light they got at a great price.
Like I said, it don’t take a guy with much of an IQ to figure this one out.