Yes - I used these on one Shocker - makes a very tight fit for KP 3400's. 5 amp driver? Stock Shocker driver is supposedly 3.8A and the DRY driver is direct drive, so it's higher based on lumens/throw I got but didn't do a tailcap reading...
Ok guys you made me confused, so please help with few questions!
1. Doesent all BT shocker already come with U2 lens as stated on CNQG site?
2. Doesent all BTU Shocker already come with better lens as of lately then the old revisions? what lens are you guys using to mod?
3. What driver should i pick during my order, DRY vs BTU what are the pros and cons, does it really worth it to go for DRY?
4. I got some high end thermal paste, Artic Cooling MX-4, it beats Artic Silver for whole 2c, should i use this, instead of the stock - to mod the cooling, is it easy to replace the paste?
Thanks guys!
1 - XML U2, not XM-L2 U2 -- new generation of CREE emitter
2 - they always said AR lens but it wasn't an AR -- now it actually is what they say it is
3 - DRY has poor/low PWM's and cuts out of turbo after 2 mins, while the BTU driver has no PWM's (I think?), 3 mins cutoff from turbo. I believe the BTU will keep output more consistently as the battery drains as well
4 - Well, depends on your definition of easy, and if that's the only mod you do, probably not worth it -- much better to get those LED's on copper stars, SinkPAD or Noctigon
Thanks dude, can you provide me links where can i get the Leds (reliable site/seller i guess) as well as those Sinkpads? sorry iām not moder my friend is, so this is all totally new to me, keep that in mind 
So what i need is,
Leds, and sinkpads only to make this light noticeably better, also replace the wires in the flashlight with ticker ones? thanks!
best source for LED's for this mod: https://illuminationsupply.com/cree-leds-c-52_36/cree-xml2-bare-u2-1c-tint-6500k-p-279.html
Cheapest copper boards and best price: http://intl-outdoor.com/noctigon-xm20-copper-mcpcb-2pcs-p-713.html, or get 20mm SinkPAD's from VestureofBlood (BLF'er).
I use 20 gauge silicone, gotten off of eBay, but it's pricey - can't find a better/cheaper source though. You get like 30" of red, 30" of black for like $10 with shipping - way too much...
Thanks alot, are the LEDS cw? sorry im new to this stuff as i said, thanks one more time
Tom do you offer your modding services on the BTU?
Well, I have done a few for fellow BLF'ers, but really need a break - been buried in mod'ing every evening and all weekend, still need to work, and got other things going on, so afraid I need to turn new mod'ing work down for now. There's always the risk luming over my head and I've had some close calls recently, and diffculty keeping track of all on-going communication -- just a lot of time & effort, and it's been getting crazier and crazier...
hey completely understandable - just figured iād ask
good luck with everything!
thats what happens when you do good work lol
Thanks!! I got a pile of my own stuff-to-be-mod'ed as well, need to catch up, a little anyway...
Is it advisable to dedome the emitters of the BTU Shocker? Has anyone tried it already?
vinz did a mod on the shocker with dedomed xml2sā¦ it was around 380-400kcd i believeā¦ it required shims and focal point adjustment to get the emitters to focus correctly
I have not seen it done yet.
The reflector design does not allow deep focus adjustments that are usually needed for dedomed emitters. The wires will probably short out on the reflector. With some serious reflector mods, you might get this to work.
Edit: OK, I stand corrected 
Now the BTU shocker can come stock with XML2, just when I bought one and being told by Ric it will not be available for a long timeā¦
I hope I can replace the LEDs easily.
Thanx jmpaul320. I guess Iāll stay away from dedoming the Shocker - for now.
I have the original BTU (dry/cool white) but also have another on build order from one of the wonderful people if this forum. I think down the road I will mod my original BTU but I really need to learn a lot more on some cheaper torches first before attempting a mod on a pricey one, just to be safe. 
Its nice to see the option for XML2ās, although Ric doesnāt list outputs for these models. I would also be interested in knowing what sort of mounting they are using (sinkpads/copper star/alum star etc).
I have been trying to figure out how to make Rics volume price points workā¦BLF group buy instead???
Buy 5 @ $95 each.
Buy 10 @ $85 each.
I am all over the qty 5 price to one BLF member but by the time you reship USPS or UPS, youāve probably blown through $20.
Maybe Tom E would change his mind, do the emitter, driver, sinkpad etc mods and do an I-95 run one dayā¦great time to leave L.I. and see the rest of the Sound area.
Canāt wait to see what the feedback is on the new XML2 option isā¦
Tom E, my eyes seem to be playing tricks on me. Are those depressions underneath the sinkpad stars?
Ohh, I'm totally swamped!! Little time for modding in the summer and over-committed myself.
depressions under the SinkPAD's? That's from the manufacturing process, stamped to elevate the surface and keep the direct copper path in tact. Some guys think it's really bad -- I personnally think it's not that bad and doesn't seem to have any noticeable effect - basically I'm filling it with AS5 but the surrounding surface contact area probably makes up for it pretty well. Noctigons don't have that issue, but they might have a slight depression on the top emitter side that has to be filled in with solder from re-flowing. Not sure, my preference right now is the Noctigon, but again, no known proof I know of says one is better than the other - relic and CPF has some pretty good charts on this - think it shows SinkPAD's slightly better, but only one sample test piece/emitter were used, so who really knows.