Looking for cheap, smallish semi-thrower...

My replacement C8 should be here tomorrow…you guys just about have me talked into a Convoy or Xintd C8, if the 2nd cheapy doesn’t work. Still open to other suggestions though. I like the 4AA concept too, they just end up being a little fatter. I’m not a modder (yet) so any lights that are stunners bone stock would be appreciated.

The new C8 - T6 came in, but BLF wasn’t up….ARRRRGH! It’s amazing to me how well a stock budget thrower works in the real world. I’d say it reaches about as far as the Defiant Super Thrower I had for a bit, but with a wider beam.

Question for you modders, is ‘de-doming’ just a matter of cutting the top of the LED dome off with a razor blade? How much thinner would the beam be afterward? I know it would warm up the tint, which would be ok with me. Thanks!

Do not cut. Do this instead--> https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/17374

Too late….well, maybe not, I shaved the top off but it’s only maybe the top half, I don’t know how to remove it from the pill. It made the hotspot smaller, that’s for sure. Any way I could finish this job without removing the emitter?

It is indeed brighter than the XinTD V3 , might want to check into it…

How about the C8 XM-L2 U3’s at Aliexpress?!

I was told to go to Lightmalls…. So thats where I went… LOL :bigsmile:

Need help completing the dedome…it was disappointing last night!

Gas, petrol, whatever you call the stuff they sell at gas stations is the only way to de-dome for me. 100% reliable so far, about 15 successes. Soakd the LED/star in gas in a jar for 2-12 hours, dome just falls off - done.

No one has the XM-L2 U2 for sale, but they have the XM-L2 U3, it's just wishful thinking.

Tom, I was just trying to post on your dedoming thread…the post got lost somehow.

I pulled the wires out and separated the LED/star from the pill (I hate soldering), turned it upside down in a tiny container of gasoline with the pill sitting on top. (Tiny gas container consists of a little clear plastic cap from a bottle of throat spray!)

We’ll see how it goes from here! (do you think the gas vapors will harm any of the contents of the pill?)

Thank you!

Don't think the fumes, but I'd worry about the wires, the part of wires in the gas.

Hi,

Are you sure that it out-throws a DST? I have a couple of DSTs and measured it using a light meter, and, although I don’t have many of the really expensive throwers yet, the DST out-luxes every light that I have, including an X6, and HD2010 (with the EAST-092 driver), and a somewhat dubious STL-V6, by far. I do have a BTU Shocker on its way though :)…

Edit: And several of the C8s, including a Convoy C8, but not the IOS one, and also C12s from both Lightmalls and KD.

Not sure about that one, on second thought, after last night I don’t think so. My C8 seems kinda weak.

I may get a C8 XM-L2 U3 from Aliexpress, or go all in and get a SWM D40A!

Hi,

Can you clarify about what you meant by “that one”, and what you were “Not sure” about?

Ah, is that the rating on the box? I’m not sure if you’re talking about an updated model, but the XML T6 version was measured much lower at 45kcd.

Nevertheless, 55kcd equals 469 meters (ANSI to 0.25lux) which is pretty fraking far. If needed to spot things from a long distance, it is advised you get something with minimal spill to enhance contrast on the target.

Slewflash, just the current fenix website TK41 spec.

Although it says 486m throw on the website, I guess that is not really the case, as the other guys on the website are not rating any of the throwers over 500m, from what I can tell. I would say from what I have seen with my own eyes/measurements the rating of the Fenix E50 is pretty accurate at 260m. Based on this, I assumed the TK41 would be similar in performance to what is specified with regards to distance, and be able to reach close to 500m.

After some reading on the forum, I am wondering if I should not try the small sun zy-t08, and perhaps try that resistor mod. I collect the lights for fun, my main use would be game spotting when visiting some of our National Parks.

Thanks

I was probably excited about the new C8…the DST is most likely a much better thrower. Sorry for the confusion.

When calculated to 1 lux, which is usually what most people can see to it is the square root of the candela, that’s all. that equals half the ANSI standard throw.

Is it for following the game, or searching for it? Following = less spill, searching = more spill.

I may get a C8 XM-L2 U3 from Aliexpress, or go all in and get a SWM D40A!
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That’s a good one. Go all the way?
No such thing as go all the way for a flashaholic. There is no end so you can’t go all the way. Always something else to buy. Then when you think you have every light in the world that you want to buy, you decide you need more than one or a spare for all your favorites. You never knowwhen you might lose one of your babies. Lol