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I love that Hank’s getting these sweet tints. Right on the BB line.
For convenience’s sake I hope he starts selling them premounted on Noctigon boards.

To make things easier when looking for XM-L2s. :slight_smile: I added some emitters from IOS and IS to this picture… Some may have remember I did a similar thing in the past with XM-L emitters from FT. Before the LED database.

T3 6A1 from IOS is out of stock/gone, so that is not in. Personally I found it a bit to red-ish, so will not buying more even if it gets back in stock.
Quite nice selection between NW emitters now! :party:

I hope someone gets a 6C1 or something similar… I have requested something in the 3500K range before… A T3 6C1, 80+ CRI would not be wrong… 0:)

+1.
Between 3400 and 3700k with >80 CRI would be fantastic, provided it’s a bin adjacent to the BB locus to avoid a red or yellow overdose.

Wallbuys is listing an XM-L2 U2 Cool White.
Added to spreadsheet. As with many emitters in the list, difficult to say if it is actually a U2 bin.

Thanks Relic38.

The other day I updated the price for Kaidomain XM-L2 U2 1A. 6.69$
Though I would post about it now, and noticed that they sell the same emitter mounted on copper mcpcb for 6.29$? :stuck_out_tongue:
Yes, cheaper on what is probably one of the typical cheapo copper mcpcbs with insulation layer. But still the cheapest option is on copper MCPCB.

As you say with WB, if they actually are U2, or 1A tint, can be questioned.
Besides KD and WB, all other U2s are from what I consider trustworthy dealers (IOS, LED-Tech, Cutter, Mouser), but none of those have free shipping.

RaceR86, your pic is very helpful and makes tint selections so much easier! Thanks for all your continued effort!

I ordered a XM-L2 U2 from DX. Yeah, I know its probably not authentic, but I only paid a few dollars for it with a coupon. I have XM-L2 T6 1A’s to compare. If the “U2” gives more lux, I’ll add it to the spreadsheet.

Racer, those copper PCBs can easily be made direct bonded by cutting away the pad layer and filling with solder paste. I bet it would be difficult to measure the difference. Interesting…

There is no U2 on that listing? :frowning:

http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S021847

Are you sure its U2? i like most powerful option.

Hmm… Maybe I was blind or imagined something???
I was pretty sure it said U2 before. I dont know. (KD have changed emitter info several times in the past, but Im not perfect either, so…)

If you like the most powerful version, check this tread.
Intl-outdoor just got the U2, they will be offered on Noctigon soon, probably a nice price but minimum quantity of 3.

Illumination supply sell the emitters mounted on copper too.
https://illuminationsupply.com/pcb-mounted-cree-leds-c-52_36_89/cree-xml2-16mm-round-mcpcb-copper-direct-thermal-u2-1c-6500k-p-617.html#.Udr0lkEwfh4

Yupp, I know. But im not into CW that much, nor do I like buying from KD, and I prefer the real deal. Might be a decent budget option though.
Relic38, when you checked the product, did it not say U2? or was it just me???

Love the tint chart. That is very helpful. Thank you RaceR86 :slight_smile:

:slight_smile:

Glad you liked it!

Added the following XM-L2s mounted on copper from IS:
https://illuminationsupply.com/pcb-mounted-cree-leds-c-52_36_89/cree-xml2-16mm-round-mcpcb-copper-direct-thermal-t5-5c1-4000k-p-621.html#.Uds_SUEwfh4
https://illuminationsupply.com/pcb-mounted-cree-leds-c-52_36_89/cree-xml2-16mm-round-mcpcb-copper-direct-thermal-t6-3c-5000k-p-620.html#.UdtD-kEwfh4
https://illuminationsupply.com/pcb-mounted-cree-leds-c-52_36_89/cree-xml2-16mm-round-mcpcb-copper-direct-thermal-u2-1c-6500k-p-617.html#.Uds_TUEwfh4

FROM IOS.
MINIMUM ORDER OF 3 in the links below

I removed the original links to the T4 5B1 emitters, since they are all gone but now available mounted on Noctigon 16/20
If you buy 3, then they are basically mounted on Noctigon for free.
http://intl-outdoor.com/noctigon-xm16-mcpcb-cree-xml2-t4-5b1-80cri-led-p-745.html
http://intl-outdoor.com/noctigon-xm20-mcpcb-cree-xml2-t4-5b1-80cri-led-p-744.html

If 10+ XM-L2 U2s are bought, then price is only 3,95$ a piece.
http://intl-outdoor.com/cree-xml2-u2-1c-led-12mm-mcpcb-p-743.html
http://intl-outdoor.com/cree-xml2-u2-1c-led-14mm-mcpcb-p-742.html

U2 will be available mounted on copper later in the week.

Low price for XM-L2 T6 3C mounted on copper too from IOS

Links are now up! (or basically, old links have changed)
http://intl-outdoor.com/noctigon-xm16-mcpcb-cree-xml2-t6-3c-led-p-718.html
http://intl-outdoor.com/noctigon-xm16-mcpcb-cree-xml2-t6-3c-led-p-718.html

6,39$
MINIMUM ORDER OF 3

R86, yeah those were certainly U2 when I saw them. I guess they changed it? Oh well, we now have some real nice options for L2 U2 on real DCB stars. IS and I-O will be my XM-L2 suppliers :wink:

Thanks for verifying Relic38, thats what I assumed too.

Quite nice selection of all emitters now… When that is said, much want more. So I contacted the banned aliexpress dealer. He is getting even more XM-L2s in stock. His selection of various XM-L2 emitters might become larger than IO and IOS combined. I just cant walk away from that… ;p Especially if prices are good. So I might buy some emitters and see how they turn out to be. Im not buying a bunch of everything tough. I hope its not a new trend seeing minimum quantity of 3 or more. I think dealers should just stick to having the option of buying one emitter and offer quantity discount for 3/5/10+ emitters.

When that is said, got the T4 5D2 (80+CRI) from IOS today. And its just like described! :slight_smile:

Just a tad warmer than the T4 5B1 and a bit less yellow. If anyone found the T4 5B1 a bit too yellow they will love the T5 5D2! I think its great!
Based on first impression, I would say that too my eyes, the CRI is better because it makes things less yellow. I dont mind a hint of yellow though, but so far, its really hard to choose which I prefer. Another fantastic emitter! :slight_smile:

Added the following emitters from IOS, Minimum quantity of 3:

NOCTIGON XM16 MCPCB & CREE XM-L2 U2 1A LED 5,92$
NOCTIGON XM20 MCPCB & CREE XM-L2 U2 1A LED 5,92$
NOCTIGON XM16 MCPCB & CREE XM-L2 U2 1C LED 5,92$
NOCTIGON XM20 MCPCB & CREE XM-L2 U2 1C LED 5,92$

(Larger quantities will make price even better)

There goes a few hundred bucks real quick. Thanks for the links.

Just ordered 25 pcs XP-E2 from Calvin at Illuminationsupply price 2,75 piece. They don’t carry them on copper star.

https://illuminationsupply.com/bare-leds-c-52_36_88/cree-xpe2-bare-r3-1d-tint-6500k-p-369.html#.Ud9XKG10kgQ

Thanks for sharing!
The emitter have been added a few months ago though.
Im considering to buy a few. I received a 5 emitter reflector (about same size as the typical 3 emitter reflectors that comes with a SRK).
I wonder how the beam and throw will be with 4 de-domed XP-E2 + on warmer/higher cri XP-G2 or XM-L2 in the middle, compared to 3XP-G2s in a typical “SRK reflector”. Anyone care to take a guess, hopefully based on some experience?

What plans do you have for 25pcs? 0:)

I have three of those T5 5C1 ( you might have the arrow pointed in the wrong spot for it :wink: ) in my DIY triple, and the tint is very nice. I also have it in a P60 drop-in. The hotspot has yellow in it, so not for everyone. I will have to try the 5B1 and the 5D2.
Not sure, but I think I’m becoming a tint snob :slight_smile:

Plan is to put them in smaller aspheric type of flashlights because it has way to tiny beam in bigger aspherics… It is same size as XRE EZ900 so when you de-dome it you know what to expect :slight_smile:

But if someone wants to break aspheric throw record this is only emitter to go without wavien collar …

XP-G2 looks much better emitter for middle to bigger reflector throwers.

So XP-E2 is more EDC flashlight suitable emitter. Small reflector or small aspheric.