Global warming... it's happening!

Yeah, thats what we (edited) were talking about, you can’t look at your weather, or even lifetime trends in one area to say it is or isn’t happening. Some areas will get cooler, some hotter, some stay the same, and our lifetimes are pretty insignificant in the time space of things: you have to compare to before we are alive, all of us are IN the warming trend all our lives, so its “normal” to our personal observations of people living inland. Its like a minnow saying “my 12” cove area on the coast is getting warmer/cooler, therefore the whole ocean is warming/cooling. But what they look at to determine global warming is the global trends in climate combined, the amount of arctic ice melt, the way glaciers are melting and not returning, the ice vanishing off mountains that used to stay year round, the energy in storms, etc.

Plus yes how much is to due to “natural” warming is up for debate, however that humans are accelerating it is not debatable. And the damage is also not debatable, just ask some in affected areas about their islands disappearing, the polar bears who are starving or the algal blooms in some areas. For me? Cant say that I can see much difference locally either except maybe slightly warmer winters — but I know my small observation doesnt really matter in the scale of things. I know its very silly of me to say its not happening because my little area isn’t obviously noticeably warmer to me and therefore the people living on islands who are losing land day by day, the people getting ready to mine Greenland areas which were covered by ice in their family memories or the governments fighting over who gets to drill for oil in the polar regions which are now getting exposed/drill-able are all imagining things! :wink:

I keep hearing all these so-called smart people talking about how the earth is round and whatnot. Well, I went outside and looked around, even checked with a yardstick, and it looks pretty damn flat to me. Take that, 'scientists'!

Umm New Belgium Rolie Bolie beer is good cold!

I used to think Gore just pushed his agenda for the money, but was surprised to discover he donates all of the proceeds from both the book and DVD of An Inconvenient Truth to environmental causes. He also donated 100% of his Nobel Peace Prize award as well as the salary from his venture capital firm, Kleiner Perkins Caulfield & Byers, to the Alliance for Climate Protection. I guess he’s just a nutter since he seems to be doing it for no rational reason. I have to respect him for inventing internet pron, though.
I think it a shame that energy companies (ExxonMobil, for example) and anti-climate-action groups must shower scientists who are willing to argue against climate change with cash, though, just to get the truth out there.
Although the U.S. is only 1.5% of the entire globe, there would be clear signs of what scientists have long predicted (raging wildfires, expanding deserts, changing ecosystems, heatwave deaths, the spread of deadly mosquito-borne diseases, growing dead zones in the oceans, death of healthy trees and other vegetation, coral extinction, etc) if this were true. The idea that a few billion people could alter climate is simply ridiculous, but even if it were true, what so wrong with turning the U.S. into a tropical paradise? :wink: :smiley: :bigsmile:

this is a political debate

you are all banned

nitecore has also showed up to enforce MAP

JUST KIDDING LOL.

yes that is very hot :slight_smile:

Cant figure out if this is a joke or not….are you a Landover Baptist http://www.landoverbaptist.org/ or Pastafarian http://www.venganza.org/ perchance?

I was just trying to be Obvious Man to the rescue, but I guess for some its still not obvious! It’s kind of funny facts like this get turned into politics instantly because the mere existence of the facts tends to discredit a political agenda.

Even the oil companies are on both sides of the issue: pay for “scientists” to say it isnt happening on one hand, and race to exploit the new areas being exposed for drilling on the other…hmmm, actions or words are loudest here? ….

I know I know, Al Gore paid to cause that flying sharknado to happen above, to bogusly prove global warming is happening. His real goal is so that we can cause global cooling and make everyone freeze and stiffen up like him. This would make himself feel more “normal” and fit in. That selfish b*stard!

Tropical ‘paradises’ are overrated. They may look nice in pictures and be nice to think about in terms of places to vacation. Not to mention the idea of beautiful, scantily clad women on beaches who actually want you. But the reality is that tropical places are lands of intense heat and stifling humidity. Not to mention that they are generally impoverished areas with poor living conditions.

Good morning. Wow, didn’t expect to see these many comments. :slight_smile:

29 Celsius may seem like nothing, but keep in mind that it’s extremely humid.

It’s enough to make you gasp when you step out of an air conditioned room.

I highly encourage you guys to have a visit here and feel it for yourselves. jk. Please don’t come here during the summer. :smiley:

Thanks, I needed that. :slight_smile:

Man made global warming is a hoax. If man could could control the climate, it would 72 degrees F with low humidity and the skies would always look like they did in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.

Greenland used to be a farming community and half of North America was covered in a mile of ice. It has been much, much warmer and much, much colder prior to industrialized man coming to the party. Like everything else, it is a cycle, and it is the utmost in hubris and arrogance to believe man has any influence on it whatsoever.

We are just not that important. Which is something you should keep in mind before you post something on FB. :bigsmile:

Smileys edited for clarification. :wink: :smiley: :bigsmile: (I knew my sense of humour was dry, but thought at least those across the pond would get it)

People are too gullible. Despite having objective data that cigarettes are good for us, the anti-capitalist scientists overturned the claims of Phillip Morris and the tobacco industry and forced a warning on the packaging.
Jeanne Louise Calment, a French supercentenarian who had the longest confirmed human lifespan in history (living to the age of 122 years, 164 days), smoked from the age of 21 (1896) to 117 (1992). See how wrong science is; tobacco actually makes one live longer! And another thing, if evolution is true, why are there still monkeys around? :wink: :smiley: :bigsmile:

because there was a missing link between ape>ape-man>man?
:quest:

Surely everyone knows God put them there so we’d remember what we evolved from.

Well, in that case…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwN_Axs7pL4][video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF3MC8PWgJE

But going back on topic, I totally understand how you feel.
When I went back to Malaysia it was 31-33C every day, and humidity levels were around 80%. At this point sweating becomes nothing but an annoyance, because dry air is required for sweat to cool the body (by evaporation). I had to have a shower about 4-5 times a day (no water restrictions ftw), except my skin looked really great (it’s pretty dry in Australia).

I’m totally not looking forward to summer here. Even though it’s not humid, temperatures reach low 40s at times. Usually hover around high 20s to mid 30s.

so we can watch them get drunk

Well, if you are watching those videos and having to shower 4-5 times per day, I’d say you do have a problem with heat, but a different type of problem :wink:

Oh you got me there. :bigsmile: