Budget Lights vs. Pricier Lights

One other plus about budget lights is just about every one I've seen you could take apart the tail switch. And a lot of times you can get spare parts cheaply that will fit.

brted, good point. I don't think even Pelican Service could take that switch out of the tailpiece; they must have epoxied it in there.

Simpleman, with more expensive lights you typically get higher quality machining and electronics, and you get a warranty. Chinese lighte may have warranty, but shipping is so expensive you might as well just get a new light. And for the price of one really good light, you can buy 4 decent Chinese lights that as brted said, you can repair yourself.

The same is true with knives. The best knife I own is a Sanrenmu but if it ever breaks I will just have to get another one. When my leatherman knife broke I sent it to leatherman and they sent me a new and better knife even though my old one could have been easily repaired with a simple fastener.

Yep, it's like buying Craftman tools from Sears. You break one, they give you a new one.

But flashlights don't have that much that can go wrong, and if it does, most of it can be fixed pretty easily.

My wife freaked out when she saw the invoice from Pelican. "$85 for a flashlight???!!! People really pay that for a flashlight?" I didn't have the heart to tell her that was for the host only...

On another forum (britishblades.com) there is a member named Hatethatgiraffe with this relevant and amusing signature:

"My biggest fear in life is that when I die my wife sells all my stuff for what I told her I paid for it!!"

Good one rc!

Or you can say they are so expensive in the first place that if you have problems they can afford to toss you another light ..

Or maybe they can't get you parts because the warehouse is in china .. if they give you a tailcap , then they have half a flashlight they can't sell .. easier to just give you the whole thing

Ah Boaz, you are such an optimist...

Yup, some products have great warranties. I had prospector shoes once I think that had a lifetime warranty, same with those tilley hats. I've been sent a couple tilleys over quite a few years, either because mine had a tear in it, or I lost it. I think lifetime warranty is rather extreme but I wasn't going to complain. Harddrives - western digital caviar black = pricier than blue/green drives, yet slightly longer warranty periods. If anything, paying more for piece of mind /warranty helps some people sleep better at night. Of course, spending 10 or 20 bucks on a light, with little or no recourse action isn't a bad investment either. Especially if you pick the parts yourself and are aware of the risks. We save up front, and if something does happen to it years later it won't break the bank to get another.

Or I can afford to break / lose a Ultrafire UF-980L. One of the biggest fear of having expensive stuff is losing it, esp the small ones.

For sure, good points. I'd likely be paranoid and tap my side pocket every few seconds to make sure I wasn't robbed! ...lol, well could happen.

Good one!

I can buy a 20$ light and toss it and buy a new one if something goes wrong with it.

And then I´ll still be able to buy 2 more until I reach the 85$ Trooplewis paid for the

Pelican. The story also shows that buying an expensive light is no guaranty for no

breakdown, which often is the mantra at the other site!

At least you won't be alive to see it. I think the same thing will happen when I die.

Either way you're dead if she finds out , your dead .

and if you're dead and she finds out .. she's just glad your dead

putting little stickers on your stuff won't work either.she'll just wonder why she never killed you .

If she did kill you ,It will give her a reason to have done so .Even the jury will agree 85$ for a 18650 host is way too much .

She'll be out in 2 years .:)

either way ... your dead ... enjoy it while you can .

Funny part is, the 'other place' even frowns on Pelicans...

I think I paid $65 for it when I bought it about 4 years ago with a Luxeon LED in it.

We all knew you didn't pay 85$ for a host

I think some things are worth paying more (potentially) but it's a personal preference. A $500 silver plated toilet seat with a lifetime warranty may be worth it to some people but I just don't care what my toilet seat is made of :)

I'll pay more for a flashlight than someone who isn't into them at all but at the end of the day it's still just a flashlight and budget prices are usually all I'll pay.

REI charges full retail for everything but if you are a member you get 10% back at the end of the year and it's convenient and the return policy is as good as it can get. Some things I need to look at and try out other things I might be able to order online (and do) but may decide to buy locally (REI) because I don't want to wait and again because of the return policy.

Until this year I'd never returned anything from them but now I've returned two items. I bought a BD Spot headlamp. It was fine. I just didn't like all of the features but I figured I'd just put up with it. A few months later BD came out the the Storm ($10 more expensive). I hadn't used the Spot other than to play around with it a bit so I took it back. No receipt or packaging. No problem. I bought the Storm while I was there.

Shortly after that I bought some climbing shoes. I didn't try them on in the store because I bought the same brand/model/size as my last pair. They hurt my feet but I used them for a month or so thinking it would get better. I eventually figured out that they had changed the sizing and it was 1/2 size too small. I took and back and got a larger size. No problem.


If they weren't known for that kind of return policy I would have just kept what I'd purchased (and been unhappy). Their policy however is 100% satisfaction or you can exchange, return for credit or for cash...more or less with a smile and no questions asked. They sell the returned stuff (for less money) later in the year at a "garage" sale. They charge full retail and can do so because of the return policy. Most people (me included) don't return most items.

However I don't buy their $40 T-shirts.

The point is if you sell $50 plastic flashlights (or aluminum these days) you can afford to offer lifetime warranties since all you are selling is really just a tube.

The only thing wrong with your argument is that teleportation is not invented yet. It will take lots of time before your crappy light can be replaced.

If anyone thinks the only difference between a dodgy $10 DX light and most $50-100 lights is the warranty then you need to think harder...

Here in western australia, to me the warranty is effectively irrelevant anyway... sending torches back is going to cost me as much as the new light anyway, and there is not a single dealer within 3000km of where I am anyway in western australia.

I just bought the armytek predator, and I bought this over a budget equivalent 18650 form factor because it offers me what budget lights unfortunately cannot yet offer me. These include - Very throwy but functional output (well designed reflector), over/under voltage and thermal warning systems, a UI that is separate from the tail switch, tint options (got a 5B1 tint) and a fully programmable driver (number of modes, outputs, voltage cutoffs, regulation profile (flat or stepped brightness), and the ability for the torch to tell me the battery voltage under load upon request.

I would prefer to see a budget light that can satisfy those features, but unfortunately, not even all of my budget lights together can achieve that.

For this I paid $99 (and with the strong exchange rate, what would have been $140 less than a year ago, now cost me $95)

In part it just depends on what/how many features you need in a flashlight. I don't need many particularly in a seldom used thrower. Even for a general purpose XP-G 3 mode I don't need any others features.

If you do then that's where budget generally isn't satisfactory. If you don't ... it is generally satisfactory.