Lithium-ion Moli IMR-26700A 2900mAh 3.8V Cylindrical High Power Cells

I leave the cardboard on in most of my lights. Seems like better protection. Some are too narrow and I have to slide off cardboard and shrink wrap.

The cardboard gives the lights a nice feel because it cushions the cells. No rattles. I think the cardboard would absorb some leakage should that ever happen.

The prices in the ads in the 2nd post seem way too good to be true. Crazy amazing deals if they are as I have never seem them lower than estimated in the OP.

The ones in the OP say made in Canada so how are the Chinese sellers selling them so cheap?

Now I don’t want to get crazy here, but I heard a rumour that some products coming out of China aren’t 100% authentic.

(Just having a little fun spaceboy, those prices are seriously too low to be true)

I look at it like this, despite not being able to afford any of waynes products, I find him both trustworthy and approachable, I’m inclined to buy cells from him because $12 for a very high output 26650 cell is a good price, and I dont need 100 26650 cells from an unknown untrusted seller.

moli cells have definitely been cloned before, guess what? they were obviously cheap re wrapped crap. I’d settle for 30 of waynes cells over 100 unknown ones because I’d at least trust they are the real deal.

Can we now stop trashing the thread please? It is at the very least disrespectful.

Someone on this forum contacted an E-Moli exec. and asked about the eBay cells. He looked up the the serial numbers and found they had originally been sold as battery packs and the dates were several years old.
I’m in Canada, and I only know one trusted seller, and electro lumens price is very good. I would buy a few from him.

I'm interested, but I don't have a use for a cell with that kind of discharge yet.

gords1001 wrote:

"Can we now stop trashing the thread please? It is at the very least disrespectful."

Is our truth so delicate that it can not be subjected to objection?

With all due respect gords (you are totally the man to me), I don't see the issue here. Someone reported what they probably thought may be much better deals. It's possible, but doubtful, that they are better deals. Deeper scrutiny will reveal the truth. The way I look at is, if someone (anyone) is proclaiming a truth, the truth, if real, will prevail against attack and look that much more the better for it.

This forum is about being frugal. The 2nd post could have been more delicate about it, but I think it is fine. Whatever the intention of it, its potential result is the heart of why I joined this forum. Truth will eventually support whether the post is correct or not.

I can be very dense when it comes to politeness and politics. Please feel free to educate me in a straightforward, easy for a 1st grader to understand, manner.

Thanks for posting these I might be interested in a few of them down the road a bit but right now I’m tapped out. Next month I would probably pick some up.

Hi Wayne,

Thanks for offering these. I'd be in for a couple for sure. If there is a price break on quantity I could probly go for like 10+

I am not saying I dont trust you or anything Wayne because you do have a good rep here and at CPF, but if we could get an independent test of these exact cells from your source tested with full discharge data sheets like the ones HKJ does my interest would be over the top.

http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Common18650Summary%20UK.html

EDIT: I personally would prefer the ones that came in shrink if we are voting :)

If these batteries have been tested and testing info is available, or not, I’ll check and see.

I can opt for these batteries, or the INR batteries I had sold before, or the Moli 26700a I had been selling before.

Mainly I was looking to see what kind of interest there is out there for the 26650 type battery. Although I sort of know from past experience of selling the batteries there is pretty good interest.

I have been considering also offering a 18650 battery of some sort, and a charger. I had been selling the TR-005 charger.

Wayne

If you could get your supplier to send 2 of these to HKJ, and they really perform... it could be a total game changer

+1, I’m up for the truth being let out, not censorship. It was kinda bad form maybe to post directly after, but we aren’t on CPF to make companies or even good people more money by censoring options, I think that’s also bad form. It would have been better to relate all the bad experiences with aliexpress (which are true) and the likelihood that these cells are counterfeit (also true) and leave the post, censoring it makes it more, not less tempting to go find. Another thing, if you followed the link and went to the site to look, one of the listings showed 2.5 A maximum discharge, while another had specs that seemed to look as though they copied the specs from somewhere else, more strong indications about the questionable nature of those “Moli” cells. :wink: Plus, you can hardly get Ultrafire large capacity 18650 cells for $3 each…something is very fishy about those listings and I think the truth speaks for itself.

+100 Will be looking to buy some 26650s relatively soon and I want some higher output cells than my Trustfire flames :slight_smile:

INR cells are ok, I have some of the better quality ones, but even those are only truly "good" to about 7 amps. I've seen other chem cells that claim 10-20 amp discharge, and maybe they are safe up to that, but none of them will carry that heavy of a load (accept the 3.3V Life cells and similar). A 3.8V cell that can actually carry above a ten amp load would be in a class all by itself. I understand that these are nothing new, but I never realized they were so robust.

Just curious, how do you arrive at the information here? The INR I have seem to easily put out 10 amps.

Wayne

Moli is not the only high current cell, try checking the Sony cell I have just reviewed, it handles 50A, but has less capacity than the Moli cell.

I would like to test the Moli cell, but shipping is probably to expensive.

Wayne.
I have a few of your lights and another one on order….
I would be interested in 6 for sure…up to ten units.
Thanks for the offering

Sure. Dont get me wrong I'm not bagging on INR cells its just that all of the ones I have seen that will even carry a load that high sag below what I consider to be a useful voltage. I have not seen any INR cells that will keep the voltage above 3.5 ( which is the very least I need to drive emitters at high current) for more than about the first 20% of the cycle.

Here is an example if you are interested.

http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/King%20Kong%20INR26650E%204000mAh%20(Gold)%20UK.html

See how at only about 500ma the voltage sag is under 3.5V at ten amp.

I did also find that Molicel has put out their own graphs here for the 26700A cell.

http://www.molicel.com/ca/pdf/IMR26700.pdf

Even under a tremendous 20 amp load the cell carries the load at over 3.5V to what looks like about 2200ma.

So we now we know the cells can do it, and I am not doubting your integrity as a seller Wayne, I just think it would seal the deal if we had a pair of cells from your supplier that were verified :)

Thanks HKJ. I had no idea sony had a 26mm cell. I used to rob Makita tool packs to get the VT 18650 cells years ago to power up 100 watt incan bulbs, they were great cells.


You're right, this isn't CPF. Bad manners are too common around here.