Will we ever see XML2 2C? I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds 1C's too blue, but 3C's too yellow 
If I shine a 1C and 3C on the same spot (presumably 2C then :) ), that makes the perfect color to me. Why is no one selling XML2 in those colors :(
The 2C might arrive, tomorrow, or next year.
Have you tired the 3A? Slighty cooler and less yellow compared to the 3C.
If you neither like 1C or 3C you may not like 2C either, have you tried a 2B tint ?
Do you know of a place selling XM-L2 2B?
Nope, but there's XP-G2 R5 2V available.
I have both 2B and 2C XM-L1 and they extremely close.
RaceR86 suggested I place this chart here. I’m glad he did as I had not spotted this thread. I realize there are probably other sources and some more options out there, I just placed the ones that I was looking at on there. I’d be happy to keep it updated if anyone sends me some other viable (International) sources. As I am not in the USA the sources there are not on my radar due to the high shipping costs that USPS incurs.
I’m thinking about buying the 5 lot of the bare T5 5B1 placing them on Noctigon copper base from IOS. Does that seem like a reasonable idea? I see there is both a T4 and T5, which one to choose?
I said I would get back with some feedback on the emitters from Simon, the aliexpress seller.
Emitters were nicely packed and marked. My package used a very long time, but I don't blame the seller, it was just one of those slow packages. Or should I say, slow planes. :p I had tracking, which is nice. :)
T2 8B4 (80CRI minimum)
is just like described. Its quite unique being that warm. Its very warm, and on the yellow side of things. It is certainly warmer then all my emitters in the "7" range and less warm compared to a de-domed 7C, which I assume is more of a "9" in terms of temperature. :p
For general flashlight use, its a too yellow for me.
If you loose electricity and you want light mimicking indoor warm lighting and being a bit "cosy". Its nice. But those rare times, I end up using candles instead of tail standing flashlights. Id also prefer a de-domed "7" emitter since that is even more "cosy".
Could be nice emitter inside a tent when camping when you want very warm light.
Might be a nice emitter for mixing with cooler emitters in a multi-emitter light if you want to warmen it up. I might end up using it for that, or just having it available for comparison or as a unique light that is warmer than most. To sum it up. This emitter is not for everyone, but it seems to be just as described.
T4 7A3 (80CRI minimum)
Again, tint is just like described. Output seems good, and color rendering is great for this warmth. I like this emitter much better than various other "7" emitters I used before, which were on the yellow side of things. This is easily my favorite WW emitter when looking at proper warm in the 3000K range. It beats the various 90+ CRI emitters (XP-G2 and XM-L2) IMO. The reason for that is due to it being less yellow in the tint, and thereby it renders colors very nicely. Highly recommended if you are looking for a proper warm emitter.
As for my logic to liking more "red" in the warm emitters I think it has to do with that warm emitters as often being perceived as yellow, possibly orange. But this just adds that little red-tone making it very nice. Its also on the upper side of 3000K, not below (beeing warmer than 3000K).
T4 7A4 (80CRI minimum)
Currently this emitter is no longer seen in his store. Again, just like described. More red/rosy compared to the 7A3. Im not that into the 6A1 due to its "rosy" look. But this one I like. :) I might end up using mix it with some more yellow emitters, but its pretty nice! :) I prefer the 7A3, but this is also nice. :)
T4 6A3 (80 CRI minimum)
Why isnt he selling this anymore, and why are IOS selling T3 6A1 instead?? I can not verify the bin. I can only say that side by side with a T4 5B1 at similar current and similar reflector it looks very equal in terms of output.
For those who want a slightly warm emitter and are not into the warm stuff down towards 3000K. This emitter is just great. Its not really yellow in tone, it has that slight hint of red in it. Basically confirming its "A3". I really like this emitter. If people who are skeptical about WW then this emitter should be the entry into the land of WW emitters. Highly recommended!
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I normally don't share MY THOUGHTS, on various emitters. But since this is a new seller, I would just say that his stuff seems like the real deal. And I got some emitters that are currently not found elsewhere, and they were really nice! :bigsmile: I hope he continue to sell the real deal and offer some stuff that is not seen elsewhere.
Though I answered this, but post is not to be seen.
T5 is brighter. Higher bin is always brighter.
But IOS sells the more special 80+ CRI version of the 5B1. I would sacrifice BIN for CRI, so I would buy the one from IOS. On top of that you could even buy it mounted on Noctigon.
Lots of good information, extremely helpful, thanks for that.
I should have mentioned, I already have some of the bare Noctigon base plates that I’ll need to place some emitters on. And I did grab some of the 16 and 20mm noctigons with T4 5B emitters already from IOS. So I guess I might as well go ahead and grab some of the T5 5B emitters from Simon, and now leaning toward trying some T4 5D2 and T3 6A1 from IOS based on your comments about the rose. I know I really prefer rose in my sunglass tints, not sure if that means I’d also prefer it in my flashlight tint but seems to make sense.
The T4 5D2 from IOS is lovely! :)
Edit: The 6A1 certainly have a purpose, but for me it will me more of a "tint enhancer" combined with other emitters. :)
I know several people on the forum like it though, im one of the few who thinks its a bit too rosy.
http://intl-outdoor.com/noctigon-3xp-advanced-triple-led-copper-mcpcb-2-pcs-p-763.html
WEEEE!! :party:
THanks for the head’s up, I see it is expected in a week. Which emitters, and what host and driver are you planning to pair up with it?
Possible light that I have and are considering:
-A Unknown blue 3AA light I bought from DX some time back, I dont think there is room for a single TIR, so triple if probably the way Ill have to go, if I can make it fit.
-2AA maglite, Ill certainly do a triple in one of my Maglites!
-Custom machined P60 pill, preferably I would like to do a custom quad P60 pill, but having a proper copper MCPB for a triple, im thinking triple might be the way to go.
Drivers: Qlite, LD-29, some Drjones stuff, or maybe something else. Depends on the light and what Im able to fit.
LEDs: I have various NW and WW XP-G2s in need of a home. High probability of some emitter mixing. Ill probably stick to XP-G2s, My fat flooder will be my Nichia 219 (+1 XPG2) extreme flood light once its rebuilt.
I actually have 2 of triple aluminium mcpcbs from illumination supply + optics. But I have not gotten around to the mods yet. Im always busy modding something else.. :p Ill see what Ill end up with once I get around to to my little triple flood lights.. :)
Btw, WB currently have this light on promotion. I think Ohoya did a triple in that light (or working on it) if not a similar light? Super cheap host! (I can not guarantee a triple is perfect fit though) Not really that capable of high amps due to size/ surface area, but.... who cares.. 0:)
What about a Convoy M1 for that Copper triple? Is there an optic that could fit that?
I am totally new to optics……
These 20mm triple MCPCBs use 20mm optics.
You could always rebuild the head of a Convoy M1, but the optics for these MCPCBS are better suited for small compact lights where head space is limited. On the other side, if you have plans for 4A++ then that may not be a dumb thing.. :p
Carlco make larger optics too, better suited for larger lights, but then you need wider/larger MCPCBs too.
Led-tech.de have some cool stuff, but its not cheap. Cutter also have various stuff.
Im hoping intl-outdoor will offer various types of optics too, the ones pictured above..
I’m worried that my hand is not steady enough to flow 3 XP-G emitters onto that board properly, seems like I have enough trouble getting an XM-L2 centered onto a noctigon, and I’m using a lab grade hot plate so I should have no excuses. Getting tempted to give it a try though. I wonder if IO will offer some that are already mounted perhaps?
@R86 - Thanks again for putting this together. You just saved me an hour or two looking for the LEDs I want.
Let me second that thank you. I used the database yesterday to find the best place to order some xml2 u2 1a's. Big time saver.
You just caused me to spend 2 hours searching emitters