I'm shocked by this Shocker... (de-domed now, more info)

[blueb8llz]

hey orairwolf, i had a tk70 , and it was a beast. can you give me some comparision notes to your tk70 vs your modded shocker.

[relic38]

@Hikelite

@relic38

ohaya, I meant the driver is now a glorified piece of wire. I think I reversed the polarity on it and that caused it to release some magic smoke. I still have it intact in a bin of replaced drivers, but there’s no physical sign of damage that I can see. simplec6, the easiest way to lap a star is to use gradually finer grits of sandpaper on a flat surface. For each cycle, sand the bottom of the star until it has a uniform finish. Then repeat with the next finer paper. I finish off with a mirror-like finish at 2000 grit. Others continue to 2500 grit. Based on this result, I think 2000 grit is acceptable.

Very nice finish, but just solder the MCPCB to that big board, thermal pastes or glues are not going to match solder conductivity of around 60W/m.K

There’s no way I’d ever be precise enough to get three emitters perfectly aligned in the reflector holes while soldering them down. I’m sure it can be done, just not by me.

[Tom_E]

Updated the OP with info on latest de-domed Shocker...

[RaceR86]

That is some sick numbers! :love:

[jmpaul320]

5.7A: 4,100 lumens at 30 secs, 467 kcd

HOLY MOTHER.

[rikr]

Awesome job Tom!

[RaceR86]

As usual, I just have to ask, for how long time do you see 5A+ 4,5A+ and 4A+ with those batteries?

They are not exactly high capacity..

[Tom_E]

@RaceR86

As usual, I just have to ask, for how long time do you see 5A+ 4,5A+ and 4A+ with those batteries?

They are not exactly high capacity..

Updated OP with maybe some info that might answer this - bottom line is not very long... . You don't want to go out for a stroll with this thing on high. Of course your arm would tire, you'd drop the head down, then go blind from the reflected light off the ground... Or, you would get that warm, cozy feeling working it's way up your fingers, and figure you'd better drop it to medium or low, rather than just dropping it before that funny smell you are noticing... burning skin... Medium mode though is 2,000 lumens - gotta love this thing!

[RaceR86]

Thanks, If I should ever do something similar, then I would probably just stick to some 2900mAh PD cells.. And some emitter mixing..

[Tom_E]

@RaceR86

Thanks, If I should ever do something similar, then I would probably just stick to some 2900mAh PD cells.. And some emitter mixing..

Agree - Pana PD's are a nice compromise, but even on KP 3400's, it's an incredibly powerful light that would get at least some runtime. We kind of reached the limits on this form factor of 3 LED's, 3 18650 cells. This just kind of proves what's possible, not necessarily practical.

[ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS]

Tom,

I think you have taken the BTU Shocker to its highest level.

[RaceR86]

@Tom E

@RaceR86

Thanks, If I should ever do something similar, then I would probably just stick to some 2900mAh PD cells.. And some emitter mixing..

Agree - Pana PD's are a nice compromise, but even on KP 3400's, it's an incredibly powerful light that would get at least some runtime. We kind of reached the limits on this form factor of 3 LED's, 3 18650 cells. This just kind of proves what's possible, not necessarily practical.

Well said, I think you hit the nail on the head there. When that is said, who would not like to own one and see what is possible?

[DENGOH]

Tom E, will the throw number increases with longer distance?

[blueb8llz]

that’s boss! i knew you had something up your sleeve tom! looks like you perfected the shocker.
now im glad that my shocker was on your queue and not one of your earlier shockers. but your earlier shockers were no slouch either, its just that put polishing touches to the already madness.

way to go bruh!

[Nightbird95]

@Tom E

Updated the OP with info on latest de-domed Shocker…

Do we need to do special adjustments on focusing the dedomed emitters? Or setting the emitters it its original set-up would do just fine?

[Tom_E]

@Nightbird95

@Tom E

Updated the OP with info on latest de-domed Shocker...

Do we need to do special adjustments on focusing the dedomed emitters? Or setting the emitters it its original set-up would do just fine?

I'm no expert at focusing, but it looked pretty good to me as is, with the stock plastic alignment pieces - beam pattern has the usual clover effect on the outer edges of the spill and center beam, but I see the same thing stock. I heard they needed focus adjustments but I don't see the need - no dark spots, throw and output seem appropriate, etc.

[Tom_E]

@DENGOH

Tom E, will the throw number increases with longer distance?

I'm thinking yes, perhaps... I assume you mean measuring distance, and 8-15 meters would probably be better. It's scary - also the #'s would be better with Samsung 20R's - maybe test this evening...

[bibihang]

Bow-down to the BTU Master!

Holy crap

[Nightbird95]

@Tom E

@Nightbird95

@Tom E

Updated the OP with info on latest de-domed Shocker…

Do we need to do special adjustments on focusing the dedomed emitters? Or setting the emitters it its original set-up would do just fine?

I’m no expert at focusing, but it looked pretty good to me as is, with the stock plastic alignment pieces - beam pattern has the usual clover effect on the outer edges of the spill and center beam, but I see the same thing stock. I heard they needed focus adjustments but I don’t see the need - no dark spots, throw and output seem appropriate, etc.

Oh! That’s what I needed to hear!

I’m dedoming the XM-L2 T6 1Bs of my BTU tonight! J)

Thanx so much TomE! :bigsmile:

[Tom_E]

@bibihang

Bow-down to the BTU Master! Holy crap

Now grasshopper, it's all in the amps. Pump enough amps into these XM-L2's and good things happen, well things will get heated up for sure...

Good thing about the Shocker is the 20mm copper stars are spread out nicely on that huge pill surface, and you got a lot of aluminum mass around, though I would like to see the pill top thicker. I think the pill top of the XinTD X3 is actually thicker.