Wow, $140 just for the diffuser? I hope its at least a pure quartz crystal hand worked “glass” in it then…
I don’t know what that’s all about but they are certainly an expensive premium brand here in the UK. I have never owned one so I can’t say if they are worth the price. The big marketing points here are that our police force use them, they have some super-duper patented optics and they use German technology (so they must be great - like BMW’s !)
My impression of them is that it’s a mainstream brand you buy if you don’t know about boards like this. But I don’t own any so that’s just my opinion. I’ve seen them at the store but holding them in my hand, they didn’t seem like they were comparable to other good brands like Fenix, so I put them back on the shelf.
But there doesn’t seem to be anything inherently wrong with them. I have seen threads on that other board where people who like the brand are ridiculed, which I see no reason for. If it’s a brand you like, they seem like an OK brand and I can’t think of a reason not to buy one, and Leatherman their owner is certainly a brand I trust.
I don’t see it as close minded to not want to drop that kind of money. Sureforce lights are all hype in my opinion. Their technology is way outdated. The only claim to fame I keep hearing is their Superior workmanship. But is it really all that better than some of the upper end Chinese companies like Fenix, Crelant & all the other overseas companies. As one Surefire owners.aid If I bought upper end lights from the above mentioned light companies. Not to waste my time on surefire. I’d only be disappointed.
Crelant is a joke compared to surefire, just saying. I think this has been covered pretty good. If you like them go get some if not there are tons of whateverfire you want out there. I have a few like I said earlier, and I am defiantly not a surefire fan boy. The newer stuff is on par performance wise if not ahead of a lot of the other manufacturers out there in the same size light class. Defiantly not outdated by any means. I see no reason why people keep on comparing the surefire stuff that was out 5 years ago. Of course that is outdated. Plus this is BLF not CPF so a majority of the folk here are going to be against them and see zero value in them, but if a lot of the naysayers tried the newer stuff I am sure there would be a few different opinions on them here. I was the same way until I got a furry. I like all kinds of lights, some better than others. I guess it is what it is.
What is some off their newer stuff? Is it posible to find something that will compete with say… I dont know… The XinTD for under $100?
I am sure that you know enough about surefire to know that you cant get much for under $100 
yep yep!!! And I completely disagree about the Crelant comment. I have the 7G2cs u3 & the 7G5 cs U3. They are awesome! & I am willing to thumb wrestle over it.
LOL, thumbs all in.
Its not that they are junk (crelant) they just are not as well made. I had two crelants and they just felt cheap. IDK maybe I just had bad ones.
I would have to say the furry would be the closet to $100. It was the first surefire I could justify buying. Since it was putting out a decent amount of lumen. It is quite a bit smaller that the XinT, but has more flood and comparable throw. I like mine.
Thats my EDC of late. The 7G2cs & The DQG 18650. I’m really not all the way against Surefire. But I cant justify the cost with so many other options. For instance my Solarforce collection. I have never had one malfunction out of them. ( The P60 series ) & the L2T is a hunk of metal. Those with a good wrapped drop in seem to be fool proof.
Lol the Fury!!! I’m setting here thinking… What the h*ll is a furry??
Oops, I didn’t even notice I typed it wrong. LOL. P2X Fury Tactical is the one I have. Its late here and I am tired.
+1 thanks for the laugh! Thats actually the one I have been debating over, its like the only one I like.
I just got and L2T and P1D in the mail today. I really like the solorforce host. I am putting a triple XPG2 mule in one and a super charged XML2 from VInh in the other. I think I have at least one of each of their host. I use them for work and they just get destroyed |(
+1 don’t wanna tear up the furry? Lol I really do like Solarforce tho.
No he is to cute and snugly. Lol. I don’t take that one to work much, because I have had a few lights fall out of the truck never to be seen again. Rather lose a $15 or so host and a $10 dropin than $100 light. The solorforce that I just got will be for around the house and the woods. The P1D was almost $30, but I have been reading that it is the best for heat-sinking. Both of those dropins put out a lot of heat.
Helps with the heat transfer. One if my biggest problemswith the fury. It doesnt take 18650’s. I dont care to mess with CR123’s. I have so many 18650’s justwould be a pain.
Wait, what did I read? Furries like Surefire? That would explain some of the cost increase I guess.
Not unless you get it bored for 18650. I have read that a lot of guys use RCR123A in some of their surefire. I have not tried it yet. Yeah I dont really like the CR123’s either, but they do last a while.