Group Buy: TERMINATED by Niwalker

It's abundantly clear MAP was used strictly as an excuse since Cellguy never violated MAP policy.

MAP policy is by it's very nature in reference to the Maximum Advertised Price. Cellguy never advertised the lights at below Niwalker MAP.

Niwalker simply chose to be exceedingly stupid, and shortsighted in refusing to sell to him.

Stinky situation becomes even more smelly.
Niwalker somehow managed to create a “Niwalker hater” here, Fenix wasn’t able to achieve that, Nitecore and Crelant didn’t manage to do that either but Niwalker somehow did it, so congratulation Niwalker…
If I was a player in this market I wouldn’t go nowhere near the Niwalker because that could/would seriously damage my reputation.

it means nothing for any of us here as far as i can tell

vinh has already paid for the lights - niwalker could care less at this point what he does with them

it doesnt matter if i choose to buy one from vinh second hand (modded) or not

one of the other 10 people waiting in the “standby” queue get one if i withdraw - niwalkers already got their money

I will never ever buy this piece of sh… called niwalker. Ever.

Guys,

Please think before you pass judgement on the innocent. Vinh did nothing wrong. He is just trying to mod a light that may very well be the meanest MT-G2 light on the market and a modded XM-L2 version light that may very well beat his TN31 mod. He’s striving to take us places in the LED world that not many have done as of yet. So think about that and think before you hammer someone wrongfully.

And that’s to those who it applies.

Being relative new, I’m learning.

That said, my Solarforce K3 is now producing some 3060 lumens on 2 18650 cells through a modified Q-Lite driver. The emitter is getting a calculated 5.79A. 3 very useable modes, with options.

Works for me. ~$80.00

First read THIS

Then read THIS

I had also PMed him on CPFMP and he said he did not like that model.

I haven't checked that list, but I'm not going to be on it.

I just read this thread and I think some of you guys exaggerating things a lot.
:slight_smile:

Well I think he thought it was going to be like the TN30. That’s what I got out of it. He made a guesstimation and later admitted he was wrong is all.

Again how many guys here with the exception of an elite few can get out of a light what Vinh can at the prices that he charges and with the speed of service and same exact quality? I don’t know of many.

Since I don't need that type of light, I don't find it relevant.

Well there’s a lot of folks that do. And they are happy, happy, happy.

Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night.

did not bother to come admit wrong in my group buy thread, instead decided to just do his own... one which profited him over a grand after shipping charges. most likely over $1500 after I did the math

Well I don’t know all of the details. But I do know he mods one heck of a light.

What you just said is very true….and I’m one of Vinh’s fans….but I think you are veering away from the essence of the OP.

Could be.

But Vinh ain’t a bad guy is all I’m saying.

At any rate, this whole debacle is a fairly large cultural / community disconnect on Niwalker’s part.
Or as my adult daughter would say: “Epic PR fail.”

Sounds like Cellguy and vinhnguyen54 are both collateral caught in the middle of a raw deal, thanks to Niwalker’s (at best) unethical behaviour.
I’ve not interest in supporting a business model like that and sadly, even if they’re the best light ever, period and made to unbelievable specifications by vinhngeuyen54, I can not support them, yet do wish him well in clearing his stock.

Divided, we fall, united, we stand !

I wonder if that actually penetrates the skulls of some and the meaning is actually appreciated, as actions strongly suggest otherwise… :frowning:

Niwalker have a LOT of explaining to do, first starting by actually fronting this very community and affording us the respect of candid replies to our questions and inquiries.