Group Buy: TERMINATED by Niwalker

I will never ever buy this piece of sh… called niwalker. Ever.

Guys,

Please think before you pass judgement on the innocent. Vinh did nothing wrong. He is just trying to mod a light that may very well be the meanest MT-G2 light on the market and a modded XM-L2 version light that may very well beat his TN31 mod. He’s striving to take us places in the LED world that not many have done as of yet. So think about that and think before you hammer someone wrongfully.

And that’s to those who it applies.

Being relative new, I’m learning.

That said, my Solarforce K3 is now producing some 3060 lumens on 2 18650 cells through a modified Q-Lite driver. The emitter is getting a calculated 5.79A. 3 very useable modes, with options.

Works for me. ~$80.00

First read THIS

Then read THIS

I had also PMed him on CPFMP and he said he did not like that model.

I haven't checked that list, but I'm not going to be on it.

I just read this thread and I think some of you guys exaggerating things a lot.
:slight_smile:

Well I think he thought it was going to be like the TN30. That’s what I got out of it. He made a guesstimation and later admitted he was wrong is all.

Again how many guys here with the exception of an elite few can get out of a light what Vinh can at the prices that he charges and with the speed of service and same exact quality? I don’t know of many.

Since I don't need that type of light, I don't find it relevant.

Well there’s a lot of folks that do. And they are happy, happy, happy.

Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night.

did not bother to come admit wrong in my group buy thread, instead decided to just do his own... one which profited him over a grand after shipping charges. most likely over $1500 after I did the math

Well I don’t know all of the details. But I do know he mods one heck of a light.

What you just said is very true….and I’m one of Vinh’s fans….but I think you are veering away from the essence of the OP.

Could be.

But Vinh ain’t a bad guy is all I’m saying.

At any rate, this whole debacle is a fairly large cultural / community disconnect on Niwalker’s part.
Or as my adult daughter would say: “Epic PR fail.”

Sounds like Cellguy and vinhnguyen54 are both collateral caught in the middle of a raw deal, thanks to Niwalker’s (at best) unethical behaviour.
I’ve not interest in supporting a business model like that and sadly, even if they’re the best light ever, period and made to unbelievable specifications by vinhngeuyen54, I can not support them, yet do wish him well in clearing his stock.

Divided, we fall, united, we stand !

I wonder if that actually penetrates the skulls of some and the meaning is actually appreciated, as actions strongly suggest otherwise… :frowning:

Niwalker have a LOT of explaining to do, first starting by actually fronting this very community and affording us the respect of candid replies to our questions and inquiries.

We all like money!

Well borked let me try to explain you,

First we did clearly stated to Cellguy that all dealers must stock our products. He should not start any selling activity on any Niwalker products as he is not being approved by us yet. This kind of selling behavior is not accepted. However since the GB has started already we wanted to fulfill this order as we understand BLF community is very upset right now. We were in a discussion with Cellguy and offered some solutions to him but he just refused everything we told him. But We still wanted to work with him and we told him to remove Niwalker on the thread title but he didn`t do that. As we were not the one don`t want to proceed.

We want to sell lights as many as possible, 15 Vostro lights we sold to Vinh means nothing us. These lights are for your guys. We just can`t stand to work with a dealer that can not communicate so we decided to work with Vinh directly.

Everyone has their point of view I think we have made the best solution for this situation

Hopefully I`ve explained you well.

I think you have explained it quite well.