Yeah lots of fighting did go on. However when one reads the thread, part of the issue is a MAP disagreement. One party says yes, another says no. However we have Vin picking up the sale looks like at a higher price after mod, which isn’t fought about by Niwalker, so that tends to indicate Niwalker isnt telling the truth about the claimed MAP issue. Also not classy yes. So yeah the fighting isnt great, but still Booooo to Niwalkers attitude and MAP! And sick the Knights that say Ni on them!
Niwalker are real idiots. These group buys of maybe 20 lights put them into the hands of enthusiasts who post here which is just free advertising. Instead they want to compete with the same 10-15 established manufacturers at the same few distributors, which is guaranteed fail. Who the hell is going to buy Niwalker over Solarforce, Eagletac, etc, without putting their name out there for better product? Now everyone knows them for screw over the community. So dumb.
I agree completely. Who cares if they were going to be sold cheaper than they wanted. Niwalker were going to get the money they wanted and they would have had a whole bunch of their lights out there in the hands of people in a position to really spread the name of the brand. Let’s be honest, without forums like this how many high powered led lights would be getting sold anyway? The way I see it, had they just let this buy go ahead they would have done a world of good for their brand instead they have pissed off a lot of people and have tarnished their own brand before they have really even made a name for themselves. Not the best start. Eagletac it is for me.
As rightly pointed out by others, there is no way I’m going to buy ‘quality’ HIGH PRICED flashlights without proper review by fellow forum members (here or elsewhere) and the brands I am most certainly going to go to are definetely fenix, zebra, quark, eagletac, possibly nitecore.
Jetbeams are kinda expensive. Olight never really stuck a chord with me. Sunwayman brand name is just lame. Lumintop never bought but could consider. I might be missing out others but the 4 mentioned above are my definete favourites.
As regards to new entrants such as the one mentioned above, there should have been overwhelming positive reviews and a good price ( for being a new entrant) for me to even consider it. That said, if the price point is more or less that of an established brand product with a similar competing product, I know where my money will go…
Just because MAP was mentioned does not mean it was what the problem was really about.
MAP was used as an excuse to stop the sale, but it was merely an excuse.
The real reason was something else.
Probably. But thats because of Vinh’s mod, not Niwalker. What are you trying to prove anyways? Selling 20 is nice, or 50, but 20(50)+ 10(or more)more is still more. Vinh does good work, any light he touches seems to sell well, I’m sure if he modded an Uranusfire people would buy many!
Well Vinh and Cellguy(who was the OP) of this thread are all good. So why can’t the rest of you get over it and be as well. After all, it was Cellguy’s thread.