Hi.
I’ve just got back into RC flying this year from about a 15 year absence.
The planes you link too are very good but if I’m honest are quite advanced unless you can already fly.
The Sbach is highly responsive and very much a stunt plane and not for a beginner. And with the duct fan Jets you really need to fly them, as in mistakes and slow flying are not what they favour.
If you can already fly, then these would be fine. However if you’ve never flown before I think you’ll find these a real mistake and just end up binning the broken pieces.
You can buy USB simulators off ebay cheap, these are quite good for learning the basics, although nothing actually beats real flying.
For a first plane something like this is ideal (I have one):
http://secure.hobbyzone.com/rcplanes/beginner/HBZ4900.html
This is a 3 channel trainer. It’s easy to fly, but also a lot of fun to try. Once you have mastered the basics you need to learn 4 channel.
Something like this would be a good step up:
http://secure.hobbyzone.com/PKZU1580.html
Once you can fly these proficiently then the ones you’ve linked would be worth looking at.
Personally I love the Micro series of RC planes, so much more usable than larger ones as you can fly in so many more places. Plus they are cheap, cheap to repair and easy to maintain.
The only downside is you do need quite a calm day to fly. Being lighter they don’t handle wind as well as larger models.
Remember if you are starting out, you’ll need everything. The Hobbyzone Champ comes as a RTF (ready to fly). Which means you get the plane, the batteries, charger and a transmitter.
I don’t think the Efite come as RTF, so you’ll need a transmitter. Personally a good digital transmitter is well worth the money, like a DX6i or better.
This is a good place for more info on RC planes: Micro Ready-to-Fly - RC Groups