Keeppower 14500

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Even tho it say cell made in japan, it’s blue underneath.

[HKJ]

@cat eyes

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Yes, that is a big oops.

[shrike3612]

Here are some photos about Keeppower 14500.

[Ualnosaj]

@HKJ

@cat eyes

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Yes, that is a big oops.

Keeppower does have some good stuff. No brand has the best of everything (for the money) though, which is why we mix and match brands/suppliers to get the best value of each. For example, the Nitecore 16340 LiCo are the best value/capacity for the money — BUT they are slightly longer than usual. We stopped carrying the AW LiCo for this because Nitecore kicked it’s butt, however, the AW IMR 16340 is still king in that arena.

With some simple testing equipment and a penchant towards disassembling/finding the truth, you see things in a very different way. Sometimes ignorance is bliss since I now put all my own batteries (camera, phone, etc) through the testers and mark it with a capacity rating

EDIT: Oh and to loop back to the OP, we/I find that AW 14500 still are the best in that size.

[Werner]

@shrike3612

Here are some photos about Keeppower 14500.

Could you please take a picture of the protection circuit?
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I have some keepower and some nitecore 14500 and I am happy with all of them, they deliver enough current and have good capacity. It doesn’t matter if there are Chinese cells in it as long as the cells perform good.
But I can’t understand that there is printed a lie on the cell. Has anyone emailed keeppower directly and asked this?

[Primal]

I ordered (4) Keeppower 14500's ,2 are DLG's and 2 are Sanyo's from Cellguy or E2fieldgear (very nice guy) and I peeled back the labels and made an incision and there was 2 red -Sanyo- and 2 blue -DLG-. I HIGHLY recommend Cellguy for Keeppower batteries.

[kralyevski]

@cat eyes

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i was going to order some of those 18650 3400mAh keeppower because of seiko protection…but now i guess it is better to put those extra money in a flashlight like ZL SC600 that has it’s own protection (2,7v cutoff) and then just buy unprotected…EDIT: who am i kidding… i still use unprotected cells in TM11…!!!(kids don’t try this at home!!!) :Sp but it is not my fault…it seems that i can not find decent quality protected cells for good price…

[Primal]

@BIG-P

I ordered (4) Keeppower 14500's ,2 are DLG's and 2 are Sanyo's from Cellguy or E2fieldgear (very nice guy) and I peeled back the labels and made an incision and there was 2 red -Sanyo- and 2 blue -DLG-. I HIGHLY recommend Cellguy for Keeppower batteries.

I should have put that I ordered and knowingly ordered 2 that where DLG and 2 that where Sanyos. And that's what I received. But I agree that they (Keeppower) should put a better label on their cells.

[shrike3612]

@Werner

Could you please take a picture of the protection circuit?

These photos are not mine, someone who is in Korea uploaded his Keeppower 14500.

[CalvinIS]

[quote=Tete] Thanks for the input! I got 4 Keeppower 14500's from Doingoutdoor a while back, mainly because of HKJ's praise in his review... Should have known better, they seemed too cheap for Sanyo-cells.. :( And now you can get them for $ 3,90 a piece from CNQ... :~ Our local dealer, Akkula.fi, seems to have both, €5,30 for DLG and €7,50 for Sanyo... [/quote]

@shrike3612

Here are some photos about Keeppower 14500.

@Tete

Are all Keeppower 14500 Sanyo-cells? I have heard there are ones with chinese DLG-cell also… On the wrapper it says “IC made in Japan” and on their 18650 batteries reads “cell and IC made in Japan”. Shouldn’t there be similar text on the 14500 too, if it’s Sanyo-cell? :~

Your dealer should be well aware of what batteries they bought. When we bought KeepPower batteries we were asked to specify which internal cell. There are two for the KP14500, either DLG or Sanyo. If your dealer sold you DLG as Sanyo then it's their fault, not KeepPower's. We are well aware of what is inside the KeepPower batteries we sell and label them clearly in our listings. If a dealer did not do his own research or purposely writes vague or incorrect listings, it is no one's fault but their own.

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[quote=HKJ] Keeppower will take any cell and put a wrap around, it basically depends on what is ordered from the dealer. [/quote]
yeah this is what I learned. Here's a straight from the horse's mouth...
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This is a misunderstanding. KeepPower labels batteries for many people. The statement "KeepPower will take any cell and put a wrap around, it basically depends on what is ordered from the dealer" means that KeepPower takes whatever battery the dealer or maker SPECIFIES, and wraps it AS INSTRUCTED. It does not mean KeepPower wraps whatever batteries they get their hands on and sells them as something else.

We carry a large selection of KeepPower batteries and all the cells are as we specified, we have found no indication that KeepPower lies about what cells they place on the inside.

As for my thoughts on the "Cell and Protection made in Japan", it's a possibility a batch was mislabeled, but ultimately the dealer or person who SOLD you the batteries should have been aware of what was inside the cell since they specified it themselves.

We take the quality and legitimacy of the products we carry very seriously. If we find a manufacturer has lied about their products we do NOT sell them.

EDIT: I should clarify. There exists two different KeepPower 14500s, one with a Sanyo internal cell and one with a DLG internal cell, this is not a secret. They are not claimed to be the same product. Retailers specify which KP14500 they want.

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@CalvinIS

As for my thoughts on the “Cell and Protection made in Japan”, it’s a possibility a batch was mislabeled,

I guess the batch from Wallbuys was mislabeled too.

[CalvinIS]

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@CalvinIS

As for my thoughts on the “Cell and Protection made in Japan”, it’s a possibility a batch was mislabeled,

I guess the batch from Wallbuys was mislabeled too.

What did Wallbuys claim the internal cell was? Checking their website with this listing: http://wallbuys.com/Product/KeepPower-3-7V-800mAh-Protected-Rechargeable-Li-ion-14500-Battery-Black-1-Pack--10645

I see a picture that says IC made in Japan, no claim that the cell was made in Japan as well.

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@CalvinIS

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@CalvinIS

As for my thoughts on the “Cell and Protection made in Japan”, it’s a possibility a batch was mislabeled,

I guess the batch from Wallbuys was mislabeled too.

What did Wallbuys claim the internal cell was? Checking their website with this listing: http://wallbuys.com/Product/KeepPower-3-7V-800mAh-Protected-Rechargeable-Li-ion-14500-Battery-Black-1-Pack—10645

I see a picture that says IC made in Japan, no claim that the cell was made in Japan as well.

If they sell something that says made in a certain place, I would not think a claim would be necessary, unless to say the item description is wrong.

[Paipai]

Dear friends,

This is Jane Li from KeepPower, i apologize for all the inconvenience but beg some explains:

1. We used wrong labels in few orders because of some stupid mistakes.
But now we promise this problem will never happen again.
We have made new labels to help you identify it easily, see below pictures:

2. Regarding batteries with this problem you already got, you should get what you pay for.
If you pay for a protected 14500 battery with DLG cell, the cell inside must be DLG and if you pay a price worth Sanyo cell, the cell will be absolutely genuine Sanyo.
KeepPower never intended to cheat any clients, we are not liar.
Actually we are pride ourselves on what we are doing, every battery manufactured within a quality standards framework and use only quality cells.

If you need future explain, please contact me at jane@keeppower.com.cn.
Thanks for your time.
Jane Li

[CalvinIS]

@Icon

If they sell something that says made in a certain place, I would not think a claim would be necessary, unless to say the item description is wrong.

I see nothing wrong then. The wallbuys listing does not say the internal battery was Sanyo. The picture did not show the cell was made in Japan. In fact this shows that whoever bought that battery got exactly what was advertised.

EDIT: I should clarify. There exists two different KeepPower 14500s, one with a Sanyo internal cell and one with a DLG internal cell, this is not a secret. They are not claimed to be the same product. Retailers specify which KP14500 they want.

[Paipai]

@HKJ

@Woody

HKJ’s review states that the cell is a Sanyo UR14500P 840mA. Good enough for me. I have two on the way from Wallbuys. Hmm, that reminds me, I ordered them over a month ago. J)

Keeppower will take any cell and put a wrap around, it basically depends on what is ordered from the dealer.

As long as Keeppower specify that a battery contains a Sanyo cell, I would assume it does.

Much appreciate for your trust, HKJ

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@CalvinIS

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If they sell something that says made in a certain place, I would not think a claim would be necessary, unless to say the item description is wrong.

I see nothing wrong then. The wallbuys listing does not say the internal battery was Sanyo. The picture did not show the cell was made in Japan. In fact this shows that whoever bought that battery got exactly what was advertised.

EDIT: I should clarify. There exists two different KeepPower 14500s, one with a Sanyo internal cell and one with a DLG internal cell, this is not a secret. They are not claimed to be the same product. Retailers specify which KP14500 they want.

I really don’t have a clue where you are looking, but the pic I am looking at clearly shows made in japan on the battery.

[Paipai]

@Tete

Are all Keeppower 14500 Sanyo-cells? I have heard there are ones with chinese DLG-cell also… On the wrapper it says “IC made in Japan” and on their 18650 batteries reads “cell and IC made in Japan”. Shouldn’t there be similar text on the 14500 too, if it’s Sanyo-cell? :~

Dear Tete,

Please check my answer at #30.
Have a nice weekend.

Jane Li from KeepPower

[Paipai]

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@CalvinIS

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If they sell something that says made in a certain place, I would not think a claim would be necessary, unless to say the item description is wrong.

I see nothing wrong then. The wallbuys listing does not say the internal battery was Sanyo. The picture did not show the cell was made in Japan. In fact this shows that whoever bought that battery got exactly what was advertised.

EDIT: I should clarify. There exists two different KeepPower 14500s, one with a Sanyo internal cell and one with a DLG internal cell, this is not a secret. They are not claimed to be the same product. Retailers specify which KP14500 they want.

I really don’t have a clue where you are looking, but the pic I am looking at clearly shows made in japan on the battery.

Hi Icon,

Please contact the dealer where you buy this battery to resolve this problem.
You can also refer my answer at #30.
Thanks for your time.

Jane Li from KeepPower

[Paipai]

@Werner

@shrike3612

Here are some photos about Keeppower 14500.

Could you please take a picture of the protection circuit?
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I have some keepower and some nitecore 14500 and I am happy with all of them, they deliver enough current and have good capacity. It doesn’t matter if there are Chinese cells in it as long as the cells perform good.
But I can’t understand that there is printed a lie on the cell. Has anyone emailed keeppower directly and asked this?

Hi Werner,

Thanks for your comments of our products.
Regarding the issue, please refer to my answer at #30.
Thanks for your time.

Jane Li from KeepPower