Keeppower 14500

Keeppower does have some good stuff. No brand has the best of everything (for the money) though, which is why we mix and match brands/suppliers to get the best value of each. For example, the Nitecore 16340 LiCo are the best value/capacity for the money — BUT they are slightly longer than usual. We stopped carrying the AW LiCo for this because Nitecore kicked it’s butt, however, the AW IMR 16340 is still king in that arena.

With some simple testing equipment and a penchant towards disassembling/finding the truth, you see things in a very different way. Sometimes ignorance is bliss since I now put all my own batteries (camera, phone, etc) through the testers and mark it with a capacity rating :slight_smile:

EDIT: Oh and to loop back to the OP, we/I find that AW 14500 still are the best in that size.

Could you please take a picture of the protection circuit?
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I have some keepower and some nitecore 14500 and I am happy with all of them, they deliver enough current and have good capacity. It doesn’t matter if there are Chinese cells in it as long as the cells perform good.
But I can’t understand that there is printed a lie on the cell. Has anyone emailed keeppower directly and asked this?

I ordered (4) Keeppower 14500's ,2 are DLG's and 2 are Sanyo's from Cellguy or E2fieldgear (very nice guy) and I peeled back the labels and made an incision and there was 2 red -Sanyo- and 2 blue -DLG-. I HIGHLY recommend Cellguy for Keeppower batteries.

i was going to order some of those 18650 3400mAh keeppower because of seiko protection…but now i guess it is better to put those extra money in a flashlight like ZL SC600 that has it’s own protection (2,7v cutoff) and then just buy unprotected…EDIT: who am i kidding… i still use unprotected cells in TM11…!!!(kids don’t try this at home!!!) :Sp but it is not my fault…it seems that i can not find decent quality protected cells for good price…

I should have put that I ordered and knowingly ordered 2 that where DLG and 2 that where Sanyos. And that's what I received. But I agree that they (Keeppower) should put a better label on their cells.

These photos are not mine, someone who is in Korea uploaded his Keeppower 14500.

[quote=Tete] Thanks for the input! I got 4 Keeppower 14500's from Doingoutdoor a while back, mainly because of HKJ's praise in his review... Should have known better, they seemed too cheap for Sanyo-cells.. :( And now you can get them for $ 3,90 a piece from CNQ... :~ Our local dealer, Akkula.fi, seems to have both, €5,30 for DLG and €7,50 for Sanyo... [/quote]

Your dealer should be well aware of what batteries they bought. When we bought KeepPower batteries we were asked to specify which internal cell. There are two for the KP14500, either DLG or Sanyo. If your dealer sold you DLG as Sanyo then it's their fault, not KeepPower's. We are well aware of what is inside the KeepPower batteries we sell and label them clearly in our listings. If a dealer did not do his own research or purposely writes vague or incorrect listings, it is no one's fault but their own.

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[quote=HKJ] Keeppower will take any cell and put a wrap around, it basically depends on what is ordered from the dealer. [/quote]
yeah this is what I learned. Here's a straight from the horse's mouth...
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This is a misunderstanding. KeepPower labels batteries for many people. The statement "KeepPower will take any cell and put a wrap around, it basically depends on what is ordered from the dealer" means that KeepPower takes whatever battery the dealer or maker SPECIFIES, and wraps it AS INSTRUCTED. It does not mean KeepPower wraps whatever batteries they get their hands on and sells them as something else.

We carry a large selection of KeepPower batteries and all the cells are as we specified, we have found no indication that KeepPower lies about what cells they place on the inside.

As for my thoughts on the "Cell and Protection made in Japan", it's a possibility a batch was mislabeled, but ultimately the dealer or person who SOLD you the batteries should have been aware of what was inside the cell since they specified it themselves.

We take the quality and legitimacy of the products we carry very seriously. If we find a manufacturer has lied about their products we do NOT sell them.

EDIT: I should clarify. There exists two different KeepPower 14500s, one with a Sanyo internal cell and one with a DLG internal cell, this is not a secret. They are not claimed to be the same product. Retailers specify which KP14500 they want.

I guess the batch from Wallbuys was mislabeled too.

What did Wallbuys claim the internal cell was? Checking their website with this listing: http://wallbuys.com/Product/KeepPower-3-7V-800mAh-Protected-Rechargeable-Li-ion-14500-Battery-Black-1-Pack--10645

I see a picture that says IC made in Japan, no claim that the cell was made in Japan as well.

If they sell something that says made in a certain place, I would not think a claim would be necessary, unless to say the item description is wrong.

Dear friends,

This is Jane Li from KeepPower, i apologize for all the inconvenience but beg some explains:

1. We used wrong labels in few orders because of some stupid mistakes.
But now we promise this problem will never happen again.
We have made new labels to help you identify it easily, see below pictures:

2. Regarding batteries with this problem you already got, you should get what you pay for.
If you pay for a protected 14500 battery with DLG cell, the cell inside must be DLG and if you pay a price worth Sanyo cell, the cell will be absolutely genuine Sanyo.
KeepPower never intended to cheat any clients, we are not liar.
Actually we are pride ourselves on what we are doing, every battery manufactured within a quality standards framework and use only quality cells.

If you need future explain, please contact me at jane@keeppower.com.cn.
Thanks for your time.
Jane Li

I see nothing wrong then. The wallbuys listing does not say the internal battery was Sanyo. The picture did not show the cell was made in Japan. In fact this shows that whoever bought that battery got exactly what was advertised.

EDIT: I should clarify. There exists two different KeepPower 14500s, one with a Sanyo internal cell and one with a DLG internal cell, this is not a secret. They are not claimed to be the same product. Retailers specify which KP14500 they want.

Much appreciate for your trust, HKJ :slight_smile:

I really don’t have a clue where you are looking, but the pic I am looking at clearly shows made in japan on the battery.

Dear Tete,

Please check my answer at #30.
Have a nice weekend.

Jane Li from KeepPower

Hi Icon,

Please contact the dealer where you buy this battery to resolve this problem.
You can also refer my answer at #30.
Thanks for your time.

Jane Li from KeepPower

Hi Werner,

Thanks for your comments of our products.
Regarding the issue, please refer to my answer at #30.
Thanks for your time.

Jane Li from KeepPower

http://i.imgur.com/gTLZaJO.png

I see IC made in Japan, Assembled in China. If the cell is made in Japan it would say "Cell and IC made in Japan" like our listing below:

http://i.imgur.com/El2PG1t.png

KeepPower makes batteries with Chinese AND Japan internal cells. They have different versions of each battery. The fact that they sell both types does not mean the lie about the internal cell. As I've said before, the dealer who is selling the batteries should know what the internal cell is since they SPECIFIED it themselves. I never said KeepPower never mislabeled a battery, I said KeepPower never sold me a battery and lied about what was inside. I asked for Sanyo cells I get Sanyo cells, I asked for DLG cells I get DLG cells. It's possible someone ordered DLG cells and they were mislabeled as Sanyo and they left that part out of their listing.

I edited my above post but here it is:

I never said KeepPower never mislabeled a battery, I said KeepPower never sold me a battery and lied about what was inside. I asked for Sanyo cells I get Sanyo cells, I asked for DLG cells I get DLG cells. It's possible someone ordered DLG cells and they were mislabeled as Sanyo and they left that part out of their listing.

No I believe someone ordered Chinese cells and KP gave them Chinese cells, but they may have mislabeled the cell as Japanese. Then the person who sold it left that part out of the listing.

I am looking closely at the photos, show me where I am wrong.

IC does not stand for internal cell. IC stands for intelligent circuit, which is referring to the Seiko IC chips, made in Japan.

Hi Cateye,

Thanks for your time.
But it is not a right way to resolve a problem if you only complain it.
If you had any trouble with our products, please contact the dealer, so we can help you.
You can also refer to my answer at #30.

Anyway, we will continue to work on quality batteries and wish you can trust KeepPower in the near future.
Thanks very much.

Best Regards,
Jane Li from KeepPower