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http://www.maritex.com.pl/en/shop/products/ggid/18074

Here there is so much stuff!

MT-G2 4000K

MCPCB 4x XB-D

XP-E2 Q4 7A3 O_O

Unfortunately, we need at least € 50 minimum order!

There are also some U2 4C emitters at Fasttech - but I don’t know the reality …

Nichia CRI92 NVSL219B-E R85 B220 LED

Is listed in DB as D200 but KD tries to sell as B220 so lets say it’s supposed to be D220?
Not that I believe it.

KD may have changed the bin as I recall it being just below Illumination Supply’s 219B R85 D220.

Can be, I just found it there is a new one and also on KD.
Have enough IS Nichias and Carclo lenses. But these random KD Nichias can be nice for the lowest budget mods.

If it’s only D200 and higher L or M voltage, it’s just like good old IS 219A B10 L.

219b 4500K 92CRI B220 bin on 16mm star now $13.34 for 5 pieces at Kaidomain :-) .

I got one from KD the day before yesterday, I tested this led (on copper) last night together with the B280 bin 5500K 219b (also from Kaidomain). I could not measure tint or CRI but my not so reliable impression is that those could be correct. I will try to post the results tonight but I am very tired, so it may be tomorrow.

New XPG2 bin, S2? (more importantly, does anyone believe the first sighting of a new XPG2 would be at KD and at a ridiculously low price?)

http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S023026

S2 = 148 to 156 lm @ 350 mA ... I've seen the same thing a few years back with the SSC P7. Seems as if the Chinese sellers can offer better flux/color bins because they buy larger quantity's ... I don't really know why but you can see the same with the color bin of the XM-L2. It's pretty much impossible to buy an XM-L2 U2 1A here in Germany although I pay 13,5 $ compared to 6-7$ in China.

djozz: if it’s the review I’ve seen, then the KD 219B is sort of a random and most likely not R85 but worse bin with colder tint than SW45.

Comfy: lulz, guess we have been writing about triples too much 0:)
Now KD tries to fish.
“Even more” ridiculous:
Triple Cree XP-G2 R5 LED 4C Neutral White 20 x 1mm Star (Parallel) w/ optics
For $7.02? With optics…
Right. Either they robbed a warehouse or I don’t know.
1A good for dedome.

Neat if only they did not pull the specs out of a datasheet, forum, other shop and paste them onto what they currently randomly happen to have on the shelf.

Aurum: you can, if only EU shops cared to have any of the emitters at all, rare to even be able to buy them. I know only of one shop here, some are in Germany but nothing impressive when it comes to selection either. They can’t or are not willing to go as low with the price so most just buy the things in Asia with free shipping… compared to expensive shipping in EU.

Yeah, I'm not doubting that the S2 bin exists (it's in Cree's PCT after all), just doubting that it would show up there first.

Thats what I do all the time ... led-tech.de offers most LEDs but doesn't offer great bins at all.

I just checked it and Cutter has XP-G2 S2 2B. But there was a thread on CPF, only two posts haha and the person was confused and said the page on cutter was not accurate etc.
Really, can’t they come up with a new/newer product in such a way that it is believable for people? List and show a photo of the reel with code.

Otherwise, anyone can sell XP-G9 Z9 CRI99 J) No biggie in Asia to do so. Big deal in EU where you get fined for such things.

Kinda like how the only appearance of the XML2 U3 so far has been in $12 C8s? lol

Has anyone bought any emitters from dealer: Simon / BLF user convoy-flashlight yet? Im considering buying 50 XM-L2 T6-1A on 20mm mcpcb’s but not sure if they are the real deal. I started a thread here but havent received any replies yet.

Here’s his Aliexpress store link for the emitters.

His Aliexpress store is Shenzhen Great Wall Technology Co., Ltd. Store No.330416

Eagletac use Nicha 219A B11 bin or XP-G2 S2 bin in their MX25L3. First seller I saw. Im skeptical to KD no matter what they sell.


Ive bought varius emitters from the aliexpress seller in the past. Seemed good to me. But I did not buy any XM-L2 T6 1A (nor would I consider buying them).

Im quite sure several people here have bought T6 1A from him in the past. Hopefully someone can share their experience.

If you just want cheap CW XM-L(1), then there is probably many here who can sell them very cheap (Spare emitters laying around due to upgrades).


Thanks for the feedback Race. Im after the 1A for its exceptionally high contrast and clarity while moving at high speeds. Im guessing you wouldn’t consider 1A because you dont like the tint? :bigsmile: I can get 50 pcs L2 for $3 ea on 20mm pads so its a fair deal. I actually prefer the higher vF of L2 for the build Im planning.

I think I have bought 15x XM-L2 U2 1A (on Noctigon) within the last 2-3 months. XM-L2 U2 1A is actually the emitter I have bought the highest quantity off. But I mostly buy it for the purpose of de-doming, mixing with other emitters (domed or de-domed) or if someone just want a bright "wow" light from me. Im not much of a (domed) 1A user, gotta admit that.

My "philosopy" is either way that when I do a build and use a lot of time and money on it, I don't bother saving a little bit in order to not get the top of the line bin. And since im using copper mcpcbs in basically all my lights, it does not make much sense to buy T6 on alu + bare Noctigon when I can get U2 mounted on Noctigon for a good price from a source that is reliable, credible, and with good customer support for pretty much the same price, if not just marginally more.

You project sounds interesting and I can see that you have different needs and preferences compared to me. Will there be a build thread or something? :)

I keep over 50 L2’s on noctigon’s on hand for local customer flashlight builds (U2-1A, U2-1C, T6-3C) and also follow your philosophy for flashlight applications. But Im also well aware of the huge disparity between what impresses the light meter versus what impresses the human eyes. Then there’s the reality of practicality & usefulness for something that will remain on for extended periods of time and must be reliable and useable to those that use them for more than 10 minutes continuously.

Im planning a large light bar for a pickup and a landing light array for an aircraft. I dont need copper since the sinks will be massive for the truck and active for the aircraft. Im more concerned with the correct bin/tint to achieve the anticipated performance. They will be driven at 3A by a custom built driver designed to handle the spikes generated by an alternator. In a few years, the emitters will be ripped out and replaced with something better while the old ones are relegated to garage down-lighting arrays. If I could get 50 copper L2 1A-U2’s @$2.50-3.50 ea, Id go that route, but it would be overkill for this. If Im in the ballpark, please let me know.

Its going to take a while to gather parts, complete some field studies and have some machine work completed, but should make for some interesting build threads to help others try for themselves. I have yet to find a build thread that shows how to put together a reliable true 20 & 40K lumen light bar, so this might be the one. Converting Chinese light bars are a complete no-go, considering the amount of heat sinking required and their overall poor design and horrible thermal path. To bad, because that would have taken nearly all the pain (fun) out of the build.

The dielectric layer in the Al boards is the killer, no matter what they're mounted on.

Now why did you have to go and ruin my fun? :wink: In the ceiling down-light I threw together (8 x cheap XML in series), the difference between 2.6A and 3A to the eyes is very negligible, but it certainly generates a lot more heat at the higher setting. I know that surface brightness will come to play in determining ultimate range for the light bar. But take a stock BTU shocker afield and compare high to turbo at the threshold if its max range. Its a noticeable change to the eyes, but certainly now worth the extra 1.8A to get there. (3.6A on Turbo, 1.8A on High). Well shoot… I guess I should rethink this for the extra 100 lumens per emitter. :Sp I hate you guys!!! :smiley: