Ledil Crystal, coming soon

46.8 Dia tir lens, 5 degree spot w/xp, 8 degree spot w/ XML. Any idea when “soon” might be. At under 30 mm in depth, it leaves plenty of room underneath for the pill.
Ledil Crystal

Nice optic, I have not seen a TIR this big yet. Is there a known flashlight that fits it exactly?

Ive had my eyes on those too. Waiting for the 3 degree TIR for xpe. Fingers crossed that it works well @2.2A with xpe2/copper.

I read the title as lead crystal and was wondering why your promoting it :smiley:

I emailed them a couple of months ago about the possibility of a sample of the Crystal and Crystal Mine and also asked them how soon “soon” was….no reply :frowning:

fingers crossed + hoping one of you will get one to do a review! A couple of these would make a monster bar light :slight_smile:

I need some help from you guys to bug ledil to get on the ball with these. They were added to the catalog back in July and still no response. Im after the tightest spot for XM-L2 and will need at least 16 of these, and possibly as many as 48… and I need them soon:

If you can email the following people with a request, maybe they will respond with good news… hey, its worth a try. :wink:
Please copy/paste these recipients into your email: nonna.raita@ledil.com; sales@ledil.com; joni.maki@ledil.com and ask.

Thanks!

I imagine it will only serve to irritate.

My response from them was:

Hello Justin,

Thanks for the inquiry.

Crystal has not been released yet. Shall keep you posted on the release schedule. You can also contact me from time to time, see where we are.

Regards,

Jin

At least that sounds like they are still in the pipeline.

Maybe youre right OL. I doubt they have any feedback for demand in some of their unreleased products and thought a bit of customer anticipation might help.

Looking at the Ledil website the RS product sheet was last revised in July 2013, the MINE was December 2013.

Ledil does make other large diameter optics, the IRIS family in particular. Digi-Key and Newark both stock IRIS optics for the XP-E and MC-E

Of the five 10 degree XML spots offered, its hard to ignore the merits of the Crystal.

C12916_CRYSTAL-RS = cd/lm 27.200
FCA12104_IRIS = cd/lm 18.100

This should fit my K3, which would be awesome with the MT-G2! :), yeah yeah the domes to big, but I have a scalpel for that...

… and you’ll be just the one to try. Have you seen the C12476_MIRELLA-50-S Its the tightest and highest cd/lm they offer for mtg2

I actually had used a TIR on a de-domed MT-G2 before in the K3 and the beam profile was quite decent. But I had ruined the emitter in the de-dome process and when I replaced it I left it domed, which wouldn't fit in the TIR designed for an XM-L2. So I still have that TIR floating in my kit.

I'll look into that link, thanks. ;)

Hmmm.....you reckon I can cram that into an AA MiniMag?

Update:

A US rep contacted me and had this to say in regards to the Crystal product line: “Ledil experienced some difficulty in manufacturing the optics. Now the tooling is in process being transferred to a different facility which is adequately equipped to mold such a big optics. I shall keep you posted once I have more definite schedule.”

I’ll update this thread when I know more.

sweet, thanks for the leg work fp!

Of course you all know that tighter beam angle doesn’t mean higher spot intensity? 27200 cd/lm means that from 1000 lumens you’ll get 27,2klux/1m. That’s less than C8 with smaller diameter reflector. And there’s something wrong with their specs:

More lux/1m from XP-G than XP-E at the same brightness?

Maybe they have some Chinese engineering interns.
-Edit Oops, that sounds terrible. I formally appologize to all Chinese engineering interns. Maybe they have some Chinese advertising interns.

The mirella only gets to 9 degrees w/xp, 10 w/XML.