wow, that marsfire is prolly the nicest zoomie ive seen. looks pretty well built and cool design features.
yea the two zoomies that i have modded, both have imperfect zoomed in hotspots. ive heard its a pita to get the focus on modding zoomies perfect.
I found out that DX is wrong! The Marsfire Z8 is not rotational zoom!
It is just like the regular one where you pull in and out…
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MarsFire-Z8-Zoom-Adjustable-LED-Flashlight-5-Mode-1000-Lumens-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-26650/1548043878.html
I like my SK73 or some others of the same style for a small one and my Raysoon 398 if I get a 7135 * 8 driver with copper pill working in it. The Raysoon SK98 clone has more cooling potential. I have a larger one than that but don’t see much use for it. At the upper end of your range, maybe you can get better build than these.
I don’t see much info on the CANSO BO6. Is it good? Cheap?
The main question is how big do you want the head, but there are not a lot of zoomy throwers.
i still think its a rotational zoom. on the head i see the arrows showing left and right
Should I buy one from wallbuy and give it a shot?
It’s really the kind I’m looking for, I don’t like those larger heads.
I want a sleek zoomie!
Nah, that Marsfire has the usual long focal length lens: gives a promising very tight hotspot but that does nothing for the throw, and looses sooooo much light inside the body, even in flood mode!
Where can I buy a C8 pill for the T20 @Fasttech?!
Hmmm… So no one has any other suggestions?
no
Sadly, there seems to be little incentive to make better lights. There are no new emitters available. Led Lenser has the patents so nobody else really wants to make flood to throws in an innovative way.
I wouldnt mind seeing a X21 clone. Maybe something with 2x26650s/18650/whatever that uses 3 XM-L2s, with each barrel having its own aspheric lens, and all 3 are hooked together into 1 push-pull or rotational mechanism. That would be an awesome light.
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ya an x21 clone would be sick. but it needs to be more powerful than the x21.
fenix with their tk76 is sorta of a new flood zoom design
The X21R is pretty strong. They upgraded the XR-Es to the latest rev bin. No need to have XR-Es though. 3 XMLs would do the trick nicely and provide a good 2500 lumens of flood, and a respectable 900ish of throw.
With 2x26650s or 3x18650s it wouldnt be small, but still reasonable.
Mine focusses pretty good, both with the standard pill with XM-L and FastTech pill with XP-G2 on 20mm Noctigon. If you want to check whether you can improve, you can just unscrew the lens holding ring and screw that in first and put the lens on top of that. Just keep the lens facing up while testing. I’ve read that someone else added an extra O ring below the lens to fix the focus.
I did that and it works, but when I fully turn the head into full-flood (clockwise) the whole head will be taken off because the head cannot be locked by the lens anymore.
I have given up messing with this light. I have done Shocker mod and it was not even as problematic as this T20 I have. Maybe my T20 is just an inferior piece from the production, I don’t know.
Best is clear to yourself but usually not to anyone else. In systems engineering, I encountered the term “requirements” which means about “what the customer wants” but is defined with the usual red tape.
Yes I know but I would like to see what most people would recommend from their opinions.
Agreed. We’re not looking for a mathematical determination of the best light. What we want are people’s subjective opinions of what they thought were the best zoom lights of the year. 
Agreed, and its always good to be open to new suggestions and styles of zoomies 
Who knows, maybe someone knows about a zoomie I might just like! :bigsmile: