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Flashlight for my bike

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for a flashlight that I will use mostly when riding my bike.

There are special bike LED lights available. But these lights are quite expensive and no all-purpose lights as real flashlights are.

The flashlight should have a very good beam and a rechargeable battery since I will use it daily.

 

What are your recommandations for my limited budget of about USD 30 only including battery and charger?


Can you also advise a good holder and a led backlight?

 

Looking forward to receiving the pro's replies!

 

Many thanks and best regards

Tom

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this MF special is both versatile and a dedicated bike light

 

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My suggestion (which I have been using recently) is this:

A p60 host with xml dropin, this ultrafire 504B is good value:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-wf504b-xm-lt6-5-mode-510-lumen-white-led-flashlight-with-strap-silver-1-x-18650-57096

with this mount:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/universal-bicycle-mount-8274

or this mount:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/universal-bicycle-mount-22mm-32-8mm-15342

this battery charger:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-3-6-3-7v-battery-charger-1251

and these batteries:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfire-protected-18650-3-7v-true-2400mah-rechargeable-lithium-batteries-2-pack-20392

There is also a special running here on xtar batteries, which I am about to order. They are meant to be a lot better than the trustfires above, and only $3.5 more per pair. check that thread out here:

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/2476

the only problem with the xtar batteries is they might not fit the charger I have suggested, so you may need to get a different charger.  

All up this setup will cost you just over $40, and is a pretty solid bike light. I chose this dropin because it has a strobe, which is normally annoying, but I find it good to have for riding in low light conditions etc.

I usually run the light on medium when its not on strobe.

AND welcome to BLF!

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Just got back from a beautiful full moon 15 miler .

I used a Solarforce L2 , with an UltraFire 3 mode T6 ( on medium most of the time ) , and a Solarforce V2 2400ma protected battery , fixed to my handle bar with a Twofish Lockblock .

Sweet .

What I do

 

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Thanks for your replies and your regards.

@ Be-Seen Triker: Cool constructions. But my flashlight shall be easily mounted/removed on the handlebar. And a single waterproof tail light will be sufficient.

Regarding the questions:

I don't want a special bike light.

Brightness of the flashlight should be best bang for my budget!:)

It should be more a seeing light than a be-seen light as I ride modstly off-road.

The flashlight doesn't need different modes. Only high/low mode would be fine for saving battery in twilight.

Runtime should be about 1-2 hours in high mode.

Rechargeable battery would be fine - or at least Eneloops.

I can wait for shipments from China and even would prefer to buy there becuase of the cheaper prices.

 

UltraFire WF-502B and Hugsby P31 have been recommended in a "non-budget light forum".
Is one of these a possibility?

Best regards

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jacktheclipper wrote:

Just got back from a beautiful full moon 15 miler .

I used a Solarforce L2 , with an UltraFire 3 mode T6 ( on medium most of the time ) , and a Solarforce V2 2400ma protected battery , fixed to my handle bar with a Twofish Lockblock .

Sweet .

I think I'm spending too much time of facebook...I just tried to "like" your post...

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biker wrote:

Thanks for your replies and your regards.

@ Be-Seen Triker: Cool constructions. But my flashlight shall be easily mounted/removed on the handlebar. And a single waterproof tail light will be sufficient.

Regarding the questions:

I don't want a special bike light.

Brightness of the flashlight should be best bang for my budget!:)

It should be more a seeing light than a be-seen light as I ride modstly off-road.

The flashlight doesn't need different modes. Only high/low mode would be fine for saving battery in twilight.

Runtime should be about 1-2 hours in high mode.

Rechargeable battery would be fine - or at least Eneloops.

I can wait for shipments from China and even would prefer to buy there becuase of the cheaper prices.

 

UltraFire WF-502B and Hugsby P31 have been recommended in a "non-budget light forum".
Is one of these a possibility?

Best regards

IMO an XML light running on a 18650 battery will provide the most bang for buck performance.

The ultrafire WF-502B is similar to the WF-504B i recommended, but the 504 seems to get better reviews here (I have never owned a 502B).

The hugsby p31 is a great light, I own one and love it, but it will not give enough light for off roading at night.

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http://budgetlightforum.com/node/2805  I like a flood to throw on a bike ..I agree with bean seen trickster  the xpg  is a good pick for a bike light too I hate the buy a bad host thought 502 is lame  throw down for a decent host . >> buy a solarforce host

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Okay, I tend to the 502B.
What exactly is the difference between WF-502B and WF-504B?
I don't like the metallic host, black looks better.

Which dropin is more practical for my purpose - XML or XP-G R5?

And regarding the batteries:
What runtime can I expect at high mode with 18650 TrustFires?
Are the Xtar 18700 2600mAh so much better?
What would be the right charger with Euro plug?

 

Ist there an alternative flashlight to the 502B that can be used with normal batteries and Eneloops?

So I could save the money for Li-Ion batteries and the required charger.

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This is good deal http://www.budgetlightforum.com/node/2402

I have http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-wf504b-xm-lt6-510-lumen-white-led... ordered 19/3/2011. I just received the same light ordered 25/6/2011. It came with different reflector, different dropin, few scratches and some batteries (3 of 4 blue trustfires) will not fit (battery tube has much smaller diameter). 

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You need a flashlight without the stupid flashing modes. With these modes you have to get past the strobe and SOS every time before getting to the high/mid/low.

Yesterday this 3-mode Ultrafire C2 XML arrived from DX http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-c2-t60-cree-xm-lt6-3-mode-1200-lumen-white-led-flashlight-w-strap-1-x-18650-1-x-17670-90777 , and it is very bright. On mid it is brighter than the SSC-P7 led of the Magicshine MJ-816 (the three led "Mickey Mouse light"). On high it is too bright if there is oncoming traffic, mid is more then enough, and with 1,16A from the battery it will last about two hours on a good 18650 battery. High can be used for a shorter time if you need some more "power", and low is useable as "being seen light". High = 2,47A, Mid = 1,23A Low = 0,25A at 4,19V on a 2500mAh Trustfire http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfire-protected-18650-lithium-battery-2500mah-2-pack-blue-5790 .

You need a charger for the battery, and a bike mount like this http://www.dealextreme.com/p/universal-bicycle-mount-8274

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Hello Biker,

Welcome to BLF Biker. For a cheap Bike Mount look here and you can use it with hugsby p31 my favourite aa bike light also take a L2 clone with 18650 for more information look here. For 18650 and charger look at BLF.

AAA: Black Cat   AA: SkyRay S-A1,  Uf 501c (2AA Q3),   18650: Uf 501b (Xenon),Uf 504b (R5), SkyRay S-R5 , TR801, SkyRay 1JC8    

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I don't mean to hijack the thread, but can someone suggest also a good red tail light?

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So many suggestions, I'm losing the overview.. The C88 would be just fine. Is the light so worse compared to 18650? Any alternatives with normal batteries? I don't mind discussing a good red tail light. I'm looking for a basic one. So I can almost buy this every where. Or are there any detials I have to check? Any recommandations?
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Is there a beam shot of the Q5 in the forum? A tight hot spot isn't really suited as a bike light. Is there a good alternative to the C88 with a bigger spill? I really like your self-made superbright tail light. But for my purposes (mostly of-road with no traffic around) a cheap or engineered model will be sufficient. Can you show me examples for both?
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I am looking for this one.Innocent

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I am looking for this one.Innocent

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No alternative to C88 with bigger spill? Thus a model with 18650?
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I think, that very useful are 2 front lights - one on handlebars, and one on helmet. I have on helmet http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfire-tr-801-cree-q5-wc-230-lumen-led-flashlight-1-18650-13095http://www.dealextreme.com/p/universal-nylon-mount-for-flashlights-and-lasers-12000 , its cheap and not too heavy  Smile

Good on handlebars should be http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-c2-t60-cree-xm-lt6-3-mode-1200-lumen-white-led-flashlight-w-strap-1-x-18650-1-x-17670-90777 , like Hobbyfotograaf wrote, it is very bright (much brighter than 504B "510" lm) and has nice spill too. BTW, reflector size comparison (tr-801, 504B, C2, F15) is here http://h5.abload.de/img/110713_143641-1920kmyp.jpg

 

 

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Thanks for your replies. @ Be-Seen Triker: Is it difficult and/ or expensive to mod the C88 to an XP-G R5? What will be the batteries' run-time with this mod? I would be happy to get you help. But the additional shipping costs from the US to Germany are probably to pricey.
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Well, normally I'm handy with tools. But I have not worked yet with such small electrical parts. Can you explain what is exactly to do? Maybe you have some pics of such a mod. It would be most easiest to get a C88 first and then to decide if a mod is really sufficient. But as the C88 has a small pill only, I'm quite sure that mod will be necessary. Is the C88 available any where else (cheaper) than @ Manafont? And where should I buy the XP-G R5 dropin and the required heatsink glue?
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Sorry, I meant the spill. The spill will get comparable to a 18650 after the mod? Beacuse that is the most mportant thing for me. Hmm, I haven't soldered yet and have no soldering gun. But a friend of mine has one a could help me. Thanks for posting the links. Looks very inetresting and you seem to be adept in modding. So what do you think costs shiping from your side to Germany?:)
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That sounds very good.

Are there any shots of a modded C88 here in the forum?

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http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=11117

If you're going to mod this light use this emitter .. much much nicer tint .There's no reason to mod a light using the same stuff every manufacturer uses .. put the better tint in while you're doing it. It will make the light stand apart from everything else you have .

Shipping on all of these items is free worldwide ..

 

 been seen trikins modding services .. priceless

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Totally missed the pics, thanks for your advise, Be-Seen Triker.

I'm not looking for a tinted emitter. What shall be the advnatge over white bright light?

So best emitter for this mod should be XP-G R51B from DX, right?

Is the Fujik available somewhere in smaller packing as I probably will have to use only a shoot?

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Be-Seen Triker wrote:

Boaz... are you getting DX-Kickbacks for selling overstocked R4's? 

Why would any self respecting flash-a-holic-to-be want to downgrade total light output?

Smile

Seriously, full white light works very well in the dark on a bike.  If I want tint, I use my yellow sunglasses... oh wait, I do always wear my yellow sunglasses.  No wonder everything looks neutral.

you haven't seen neutral white, have you? Smile

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janko.hrasko wrote:

Be-Seen Triker wrote:

Boaz... are you getting DX-Kickbacks for selling overstocked R4's? 

Why would any self respecting flash-a-holic-to-be want to downgrade total light output?

Smile

Seriously, full white light works very well in the dark on a bike.  If I want tint, I use my yellow sunglasses... oh wait, I do always wear my yellow sunglasses.  No wonder everything looks neutral.

you haven't seen neutral white, have you? Smile

Is this light "better" in a way? Should one have seen this? Can you provide us with pics showing the difference?
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If you are interested I have a lot of lights that my brother likes to borrow. We downhill mountain bike and trail ride so we need something bright and strong. So far this is the setup he likes the best and it fits your budget.

The KD C8 seems to be the best bike light for the money. I had to buy one for him because he kept taking mine.

http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=11097

Same deal with the mount I have bought 3 of these so far this mount works great.

http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=5255

A couple Trustfire flame 18650s and a charger and you should be good to go.

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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Wow I am looking for this one

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janko.hrasko wrote:

Be-Seen Triker wrote:

Boaz... are you getting DX-Kickbacks for selling overstocked R4's? 

Why would any self respecting flash-a-holic-to-be want to downgrade total light output?

Smile

Seriously, full white light works very well in the dark on a bike.  If I want tint, I use my yellow sunglasses... oh wait, I do always wear my yellow sunglasses.  No wonder everything looks neutral.

you haven't seen neutral white, have you? Smile

Janko's question is 100% valid ... if you had a neutral emitter in any of your lights you wouldn't say what you're saying .

yes ..i'm absolutely suggesting you cough up 7% of the lumens for an emitter that placed side by side with a cool white light makes the world come alive ,makes colors pop .

7%  is imperceptible  ..and yet the differance in what the world looks like is huge . you want stupid cool white lights ?? they are everywhere .Why  build a light and use the same trash emitter everyone else does .. you could just go buy one of those ..if you're a flashaholic you have 20 of them already .

  saying the R4 is the crap emitter ...is just silly  .. people come to this forum thinking sheer numbers and output is the only measure of a good light .. that's just wrong. it's ten year old boy thinking ..by that logic a loud car is a fast car.

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Boaz wrote:

janko.hrasko wrote:

Be-Seen Triker wrote:

Boaz... are you getting DX-Kickbacks for selling overstocked R4's? 

Why would any self respecting flash-a-holic-to-be want to downgrade total light output?

Smile

Seriously, full white light works very well in the dark on a bike.  If I want tint, I use my yellow sunglasses... oh wait, I do always wear my yellow sunglasses.  No wonder everything looks neutral.

you haven't seen neutral white, have you? Smile

Janko's question is 100% valid ... if you had a neutral emitter in any of your lights you wouldn't say what you're saying .

yes ..i'm absolutely suggesting you cough up 7% of the lumens for an emitter that placed side by side with a cool white light makes the world come alive ,makes colors pop .

7%  is imperceptible  ..and yet the differance in what the world looks like is huge . you want stupid cool white lights ?? they are everywhere .Why  build a light and use the same trash emitter everyone else does .. you could just go buy one of those ..if you're a flashaholic you have 20 of them already .

  saying the R4 is the crap emitter ...is just silly  .. people come to this forum thinking sheer numbers and output is the only measure of a good light .. that's just wrong. it's ten year old boy thinking ..by that logic a loud car is a fast car.

Boaz is right it took me a while to "see the light" and it is neutral.

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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