CLOSED! Group Buy: Starry Light SA-22 BLF Edition (NW emitter, better modes, faster PWM, BLF logo)

I believe you are confusing the “off time memory” Chicken Drumstick described with the “on time memory” used by qlite and other 105c-style drivers.

“on time memory” memorizes the mode based on how long the light has been on (for example on >2 seconds), “off time memory” memorizes the mode based on the amount of time the light has been off (for example off >2 seconds).

What are the drive currents at the various levels?
Does it have a buck driver or a linear driver?

So this Starry light is having the “off time memory” while the Qlite are having “on time memory”? Do I understand correctly this time?

Most of the time I deal with Nanjg drivers and I think I never have lights that perform the “off time meory”, or I was not aware of.

Wrong (IMO). Without memory, you can go from low to moonlight by turning off for a couple of seconds, then starting in moonlight without going through medium and high. If you use high and are annoyed by having to spend a second or two on lower modes, then a light offering moonlight and low is simply the wrong tool for the job.

Can the LED be upgraded to sinkpad/noctigon and what diameter is the driver, i am curious if it can be replaced

Yes, you understand correctly. “off time memory” is what was described by the and Chicken Drumstick. In the other thread nobody discussed which type of memory the stock light has beyond the fact that it works properly. In this thread we have yet to see a 100% complete prototype of the BLF GB light, so I can’t tell you for certain what this light will have yet! “off time memory” is considered the more desirable of the two. I believe that outside of Nanjg drivers “on time memory” is rare.

Personally while I see merit in having both low and moonlight, I’d primarily use a light like this on full blast. If it were to have no memory, I would prefer to start in high because:

  1. I mostly use it on high.
  2. It's easier to showboat that way.
  3. If it ever seems practical to defend myself by shining the light in someone's eyes, it better be on high for that first click! ;-)
  4. I can easily preserve my night vision by covering the lens and switching modes a few times to moonlight.

I think the memory/no-memory/mode-order discussion has been walked through several times on BLF and elsewhere. There's really no cure-all for the issues that are brought up _the_ picked a configuration, some people will purchase it and some will not.

[quote=Bort] Can the LED be upgraded to sinkpad/noctigon and what diameter is the driver, i am curious if it can be replaced [/quote] Bort, _the_ pointed out that the special battery contacts are on the bottom of the driver PCB, a swap with an existing driver would not be practical. Of course a custom driver could be made. Fair question as to how the LED is mounted!

I have no questions.

Put me down for 1

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So wehen will this Start?

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It's all up to the China Connection.

I’m posting for the first time in ages just to say this: put me down for one too.

I’m afraid with the confusing battery configuration that I won’t be in on this one. I was going to give one to a non-flashaholic, but I don’t think this one will work. Sorry!

Does non-flashaholic=inbecile? Put the cells in one way, if it doesn't work say 'oops' or 'darn' and reverse them.

Hrm, seriously .4 AND 4.1 lumen moonlight modes taking up 2 of 5 output levels? This is a large light with 4xAA and going to be gifted to newbies I thought, who, like most people with a .4 lumen then going to 4 lumen starting point will react something like “is it on?, what would you even use this for?”. Conversely, flashoholic people who like moonlight ( a small group in a small group btw ) seem to want it on everything, but they are almost universally the least used modes, especially for non-flashoholics. I mean I like it too, and I want it on several lights, but I’ve used it, actually used it, less than .5% of the time its running to go to the bathroom at night, even on my small lights…nice, but hardly crucial, and definitely not worth 40% of the modes on a light. I can always keep a small moonlight mode light by my headstand/sleepingbag/etc and grab that only, leaving the bright lights for when I’m awake in the dark… This is only going to frustrate non flashoholic moonlight lover people I would give it to, can we only have one moonlight mode on it?

*Edit: yikes 4 modes, 50% moonlight light? Why?

I agree that 2 very low modes is a bit excessive, but it’s supposed to have memory so I’m fine with extra modes.

About non-flashaholics though I don’t agree. If they don’t like having moon modes then in my experience they would just rather have a single mode.

I’m not really a flashaholic (at least not yet), and I like the idea of the two lows. I’d like to bring just ONE flashlight with me when camping and such. Personally, I don’t like mediums. I either want a low enough light that it has a super-long run time and doesn’t ruin my night vision (firefly and low), or I want it as BRIGHT as possible.I’d like it to be low enough that I can use it to read, or leave it on as a nightlight, but also bright enough to light up an incoming Yeti or something. This one light will let me do both.

I can see how someone who uses one for EDC, shining into machinery and such, might want a medium, & probably several levels of medium. But for non-flashoholic uses, I think this is better.

I like the current setup.

Interested (and I’m another low-lifer)

Welllll, 2/3 year membership with 31 posts, I don’t think you qualify as non-flashoholic group, you already appreciate them enough to research them and be on here, 99.999% aren’t. :wink: Either way, do you know how low .4 lumens or 4 lumens is to use? .4 is useless unless its completely dark and you are operating very close to your face, and 4 is still very low for moving around at all. Even as a flashoholic I don’t prefer that low, I don’t usually play hide and seek or read in my tent close to my face or play spy in the forest, so its not useful for me. 2% of 600 is 12 lumens, .2% is 1.2 too, somehow we got lower on already very low modes, the .4 and 4 are in the same territory of usefulness, real percent as stated starts to become more useful. Most people dont want high all the time or low all the time so they can see, which leaves one useful mode for moving around, using it in the ways people use a light most of the time.