Uniquefire UF-T20 mod: 3.05A xpg2-3C dedomed on Sinkpad

I think this is collatoral damage of dedoming then?

:) I'm fine with the picture. Ans the beam is small enough for me now.

or maybe cellulose based thinner is a bit harsh, I mean, full dedome in just an hour or less, that’s pretty fast chemical reaction.
Anyways, all those discolorations and unwanted rings are reason I don’t buy zoom light.

depends remains of silicone or around your LED?

I dedome with thiner and it works very well.

after the ball fell off is just lash out, blowing hard / blow / blow and back for an hour or two in it!
then back hard blow / blow BLOW … and you have a clean dedome.

the harder you drive up the Amp (4 or higher) clearer and more how you obtain whiter light.
furthermore, you can gently with a black marker around the silver plate LED colors around the LED itself to reflection.

The only thing I want with this flashlight is a spill from afar 100m + which is the same as the hub you have to + –10 meters.
if someone trick or another glass knows please replace. please let me know

and of course … of course even more light! :bigsmile:

another beam shot,

this time the modded Uniquefire uf-t20 VS a modded Trustfire X7, emitter : XP G2 R5 2B (with dome) at 5A current .

left: uniquefire , right trustfire

The Trustfire X7 should be at ~225 Klux.
What do you think guys? The uniquefire spot looks more intense, isn`t it ?

Solder paste? In the video it he uses ‘solder paste’ in the pill… I am not sure what this is, can someone send a link to where I buy… Maybe from the ebay?

This is only one of many places
clicky link

Go onto Ebay.au and search for “solder paste -flux”

be careful as there will be a lot of flux under all kinds of names mixed in the results :~

Cheers David

I have been using this without any hassle.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1261003

Question, could you scoop a glob of it, put it in a syringe with say a 14ga blunt tip needle (I use rotary tool and diamond wheel to grind sharp tips flat [I use it to put e-juice in my vapor systems thru small screw holes) and use that to place small bits of solder paste on the pads for reflow?

Something like this
http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchDisplay?minPrice=&searchType=1002&categoryId=1053&viewType=&beginIndex=0&showResultsPage=true&searchTermScope=&catalogId=10051&pageSize=20&langId=–1&searchTerm=&resultCatEntryType=&manufacturer=&orderBy=&sType=SimpleSearch&maxPrice=&pageView=image&searchPageType=&metaData=&storeId=10151&filterTerm=

I used the full syringe tube that I got from amazon to dab globs of this on the pads when I made my 32*7135 SRK and 20mm TexasPyro Nanjg driver

A stencil from OSHStencils would DEFINITELY be a good idea if you plan to make more than one at a time (and they do VERY good work, I got both my stencils for the above, haven’t used them yet, but got the plastic mask and stencils for very cheap!

Here is rosin solder flux
https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10001213/1101900-high-intensity-soldering-flux-paste

But definitely like that FT solder paste! NICE!

I have been using a toothpick, but stencils would be much faster and more precise for quantity work.

Hi,

first thank you to the thread starter for this nice mod and detailed review, I really like this stuff :slight_smile: Now my UF-T20 have arrived and i really like it. Still waiting for drivers and leds, seem there is no luck there for me…

Borg, liked very much your work too, and I am for xpe mood too. Still one question in my mind, how its possible u have spend all this in torch and leds and so on and still are missing a lux meter? I strongly advise you to get one, it will help you and us a lot.

With my bad luck with mail I have, got a lux meter and still waiting for led and drivers to arrive lol.

ah one more thing I am measuring stock UF-T20 and is giving me around ~ 22Klux, but my batteries are cheap TrustFire. Look that reading ok ?

22klux sounds plausable, that is what you can expect of a xml in a good zoomie.

(thanks for the thanks, I would have never thought that this thread would attract new posts even after a year :-) )

Well I believe this thread will go strong for a lot more than one year :slight_smile:

Personally i like throwers, and really like pocketabile ones with just 1x18650. My dream one will be one that is small like an M2 for excample or even a little bit smaller and throw 100Klux and up :smiley: (pretty much impossible by today standards I know)
This T20 is in the upper limit of the size to my tastes, so I will try to experiment a little bit with it with the hope to up the lux numbers as much as i can.

You have wrong tint for XP-E2... Try 1A or 2B tint... To me it seems like you are in 180KCD range with this mode. Get yourself light meter and open a thread with your version of Vavien collar I will buy it :)

Stock Trustfires X7(sst-50& 80) are not throwing more than 50kcd, and I did not to try to mode one with XP-G2 because it seems that it has not right shape of reflector for that little led.So I think you are in 120 kcd range with your mode(and it would probably throw 200 or more kcd if you dedome it? Why not? 2B is my favorite tint for dedoming).

Ervin Anastasi,
no lux meter until my current aspheric project is done :slight_smile:

luminarium iaculator,
in the beamshots i locked the white balance to “daylight” . This makes the image to look more warmer. In reality, the spot is much more cooler.

i choose XP-E2 R4 (6100-6500K) tint because it was the only option from intl-outdoor.com store. I assume that 1A and 2B tint are cooler ?
Anyway, after installing a recycling light collar the tint becomes even more warmer than after dedoming.

About the Trustfire X7, if you check this thread by Andi , last page, post nr. 110, you will see that a hard driven and well focused dedomed xpg2 in the X7 will do 400-450 Klux.

About the recycling light collar, i am sure a lot of people would buy a collar custom made to fit the Uniquefire UF-T20, but also i do not think that wavien would be very happy about it, since they patented this technology. So i do not think this will going to happen :slight_smile:

luminarium iaculator,
For now, i will not dedome the XP G2 2B in the Trustfire X7.
I bought the X7 to mod it into a aspheric thrower with a hard driven XP-E2 + 75mm lens . The XPG2 is installed now just to see how it shines with it, until my new lens arrives.

I want to report about the kaidomain 80mm aspheric lens link
This lens is not good for maximal throw, it has a bright spill and it can not focus all the light in the spot.

This is how the recycling light collar custom made for the Trustfire X7 looks :

Looking good that collar... Why would you not sell it to people? This is budget forum so you could make something with acceptable price to us and earn some $? I am first on waiting list...

Do you use welding mask when centering this collar? Or maybe moonlight mode only? I would have to use some eye protection for this because I mostly have single mode drivers.

Yes indeed XP-E2 R4 from IO are cool white with 1C tint(a bit greenish tint)...

Night picture taking is hard and with phone camera even harder so I should not judge the picture.

Illumination supply carries XP-E2 with 1D tint if you want to try something similar...

I don't think Andi gave correct data... It would be lucky if it throws 300 kcd with driven XP-G2.

"I bought the X7 to mod it into a aspheric thrower with a hard driven XP-E2 + 75mm lens"

Tried that in Xsearcher aspheric and if you find good aspheric it will be true laser like beam( I don't like it since it is smaller and I got even lower results than with hand selected XP-G2 2B (the brightest out of 20)

My advice is:

- No point of driving XP-E2 more than 2.8 A (no results and heat will be enormous if you will tune it up with more chips)

- Stick to newest XP-G2 S2 (brightest XP-G2) and order at least five pieces and select the brightest of them(you will surprise how much lux you can gain with right selection of emitters)

This is mine 450KCD(with lower performing brothers I had from 380+) Xsearcher with hand selected XP-G2 R5 2B driven at 3,6A heavy fog( I don't want to tune up further because it is single cell light)

I will try to made XP-G2 S2 1A (which should outperform this setup up to 10% or more if I find brightest among lot of them because 2B is in its upper performing class. If you don't understand what I talking about read here about led bins and performance deviation http://flashlightwiki.com/Cree )...

In fact I have 6 pcs of them I am just to lazy to start...

Looking forward for your build but I think it will be extreme hard to find good aspherics for X7. Good luck.

Tint graph:

Yes, i centered the collar using moonlight mode.

Recycling light technology is patented by Wavien and start selling the custom collars here would probably be like calling for trouble.

It would be nice if somebody that understands exactly how the law works in this case would step in and explain if there is a way of selling the aluminium collar clone without getting in trouble.

Nâh, it’s unreasonable to patent properties of light (i.e. laws of physics), so f*k Wavien, and f*k LedLenser while you’re at it.
The nerve of some people… I mean really…
Inventions are usually discoveries anyway, so there.
:slight_smile:

I was looking for a picture here of the main tube, unmodded, because i just modded mine, taking care of the focussing business.
But i don’t have the ‘before’ pic…

So, I have a UF-838 that I was going to put a de-domed XP-G2 in with a 3.04A Qlite / NLITE driver. But it has a hollow pill and I haven’t had the motivation to build a heat sink, and it has a rather long focal distance so it’d probably lose a lot more lumens than necessary when focused. My estimate is that it’d max out at about 60 kcd, based on holding the optics in front of another de-domed XP-G2 I have and measuring it.

I’m thinking it might be a better idea to just buy a UF-T20 to mod instead, and keep the UF-838 as a flooder. In wide mode, its lens is only like 1mm away from the emitter, so it has an extremely wide beam. Great as a “flash” for photography, but not very useful for anything else.

The goal here is to make a pocketable aspheric thrower for entertainment purposes. I don’t need 200+ kcd of throw, but I wouldn’t mind getting as much as possible out of something the size of a C8 or smaller.

Any thoughts on the best approach here? I currently have the UF-838 and de-domed XP-G2 on a 20mm star and a replacement 17mm driver and a dummy plate to mount the driver in a 20mm hole if necessary. Just not sure if I should grab a UF-T20 too, or just find and shape some copper to jam into the hollow pill and use the parts I already have.